"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Should we really care that much about women?

David Zappa

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Hi guys,

I've come to the realisation that so many men put women on a pedestal and forget about their own goals. In their relationships with women, they forget about their own ambitions, desires, and careers. Never put women ahead of yourself!

Being in a relationship benefits women more! That's why women hate men who say they never want to marry or be in a serious relationship. What I'm trying to get at is this: the benefits conferred to women in a relationship are far greater than that which will be conferred to a man. At the same time, men bear all the risk. Thus, never let yourself get tied down. Only make the girl feel like that you care for her.

Women should be secondary. My own goals are #1, and I won't let anybody get in my way. That, in my humble opnion, is the correct attitude to have - unless women are your only goals in life.

I've told women that my career is #1 and they absolutely hate it. But I get the hunch that they feel sexually attracted to a man who views them as secondary in his own life.

Modern women are too self-centred and childish to be taken seriously. Don't hate them. Forgive them for their ways. But don't take them seriously! Just have fun and date a few at the same time.

Would like to hear your thoughts

P.S I was having a conversation with a female friend in a cab ride home and she said that women a lot of sexual power for the reason that 'it takes two to tango'. I replied by saying that one individuals women's power over me will be greatly reduced if I date 5 women at the same time. She hated my come-back. I guess it hit a nerve.

Take the power back, guys!
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Iceberg

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David Zappa said:
Women should be secondary. My own goals are #1, and I won't let anybody get in my way. That, in my humble opnion, is the correct attitude to have - unless women are your only goals in life.
Totally agree. I see too many guys on here focused on finding some magical LTR that will "complete them".

Focus on becoming the man you want to be, think of women as entertainment, and one day your precious LTR just might fall into your lap.

Make women and LTRs the priority, and you'll end up settling for the first thing that comes along. Or worse, you'll drive yourself crazy every time relationship doesn't work out.


I've told women that my career is #1 and they absolutely hate it. But I get the hunch that they feel sexually attracted to a man who views them as secondary in his own life.
I agree. They love it.

Just like you'll see some AFC guys chasing a woman who dangles sex in front of them like a carrot, you'll find women who chase a guy who dangles love in front of them.

They'll never admit it, but they want to compete for your love. Once they have it, it becomes boring, like an old toy.


Modern women are too self-centred and childish to be taken seriously. Don't hate them. Forgive them for their ways. But don't take them seriously! Just have fun and date a few at the same time.
Love it.

If guys would view dating this way, this site would have less venting about "Why doesn't she call me?" and more inspirational topics like, "How do I start my business?" or "Help me plan a backpacking adventure."

If I'm dating Girl X, and she doesn't call me, then I'll either go to Girl Y, or I'll take a break from girls all together and focus on my hobbies, work, or anything else. There are too many great things to think about in the world to be getting all teary-eyed over girls.
 
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There isn't much I can expand on what you have typed David and the same goes for Iceberg, you've both really hit the nail on the head.
 

pdx1138

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Agreed. When you put all your effort into it, it sucks the life out of you.

You first, them second.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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