She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
When you think about it we men end up paying to get sex no matter what. Whether it be through paying for dates or getting a hooker. It is still much cheaper to just pay for the stuff in a date then it is getting a hooker.cup of coffee on first date for both of you = $8
going to dinner on second date = $30
getting cup of coffee on third date for both of you (at end of date you get sex) = $8
total = $46
vs
having sex with a hooker = $100 +
having sex with a hooker = 1 time
getting a relationship with girl you dated = sex MANY TIMES
yes and yes and yes its bvllsh!t but so is life.f283000 said:Another thing is that with the way society has us programmed you refusing to pay will only make you look cheap (even though you just have principles). She will likely feel a bit offended by it. Women detest men that are cheap and there are no lack of men that will spend money on them to get into her pants. Don't forget that in this world we are living in the pu$$y HAS THE POWER. So you showing your principles in this situation will more likely cost you a lay rather than help your cause as she has plenty of options.
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
Datpiff said:i think that guy seems a lil insecure, hes taking the dont buy a girl drinks at the bar way too far
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
anger? how am I bitter and angry towards the female gender? just because i choose to let her pay for her own shit?Bible_Belt said:That's what I was thinking. The basis behind the 'never pay' rule seems to be anger at the entire female gender. The problem is that it is directed at one single woman, whom you probably barely even know. It's not any different on a first date than when a woman tells you all the things she hates about men. Bitterness is not attractive in either gender. We all want a woman without such emotional baggage, but you can't really ask for what you don't even offer yourself.
well shit...obviously i didn't get the memo!Chickfight said:F*ck that, we are men and so we PROVIDE for women.
how does this matter exactly? i think you've mistaken me for someone who actually gives a fvck about what woman want.Chickfight said:Women don't like men who smother them with gifts, but they don't like cheap men either.
HolyG said:sighhhh...this thread (the infighting in it) is what I hate about sosuave.net Half the virgins and keyboard jockeys in here are going on and on about how "they would never" spend 10 dollars on "a *****". Ok guys, we are on the internets where no one knows you cry yourselves to sleep every night.
There's a difference between buying a girl a goddamn sandwich (when she paid for the bus fare) and buying her a diamond ring for no reason whatsoever.
You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.
I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.
Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.
These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.
teacha said:anger? how am I bitter and angry towards the female gender?
teacha said:i think you've mistaken me for someone who actually gives a fvck about what woman want.
I agree. The major problem in this particular situation is that the guy is working while the woman is not working. I would have understand if it were to be the woman working but for the guy to be working and pull sh!ts like this is crappp!.cordoncordon said:He pretty much sounds like a d!ck to me.
teacha said:well shit...obviously i didn't get the memo!
how does this matter exactly? i think you've mistaken me for someone who actually gives a fvck about what woman want.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.