Should I go to a sex club to get experience?

[inquisitor]

To be completely blunt, we have some idiots on this forum

Ask yourself these questions: Does the girl like you for who you are or does she like what you have? Are you paying with the expectation of getting laid or are you out having a good time and she is there for the ride?

We are talking about two different experiences. Practice does not make perfect, it makes permanent.

Idiocy is on the rise too.

 

[Gamisch]

I will use fighting as an analogy in my post.

OP wants to learn VIOLENCE(relationships). So, the general advice is to seek violence in a controlled environment first (aka a boxing gym). We could say" just go to the hood,challenge(=cold approach)a mofo (=woman) et voila . You might get your experience within seconds. But ,obviously OP has his reasons to be scared of this, so we go back to looking at a rather " controlled environment ". Even though we already know that a gym simply doesn't provide REAL ,limitless violence .there are strict rules.

You go to the gym and you'll learn how to spar (= feck a woman). Now mind you, even the hardest sparring session won't ever resemble a real match in the ring (= a ONS ,or FWB ) let alone a streetfight (=a REAL relationship with a strang woman) . Even though you might step inside a gym and face a young,unknown Mike Tyson who'll school you , but the chance this happens is small. (= a nice prostitute who does her work with passion and actually likes you) .

At the end of it all, a trained fighter might have more chances in a streetfight. But anyone with experiences in the Djojo, the ring, and the street will know these are vastly different from each other (= a prostitute, a ONS FWB vs a real long term relationship and eventually living together and/or marriage. )
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I hope my fighting/violence analogy makes sense.

So , a man without xp with women and sex can visit a professional . Even tell and pay her to "make it look like a real fight" =the gf experience. You'll at least have more affinity with women and sex. But, as mentioned before, it teaches you nothing about the nitty gritty of relationship dynamics. To refer to my first piece of writing, it might even give you a false sense of reality. In real life you wont hear " olala so handsome papi, me want fecki sucki long time you ".

The ONLY way is to actually put yourself in the (for you) most vulnerable positions; and that's facing rejection aka cold approach.

Its weekend. The cities are filled with women wanting a good time. A dope wingman ,some social skills and confidence and anything might happen. But you'll have to be there where the fun's at. And not be a socially awkward person qho hides in the corner waiting until "she " walks up to you. That's a luxury only (cute and pretty) women have. Men will have to take risk left and right to make shyte happen. And that goes for any area of life.

You can visit a 100 prostitutes, when you are in a relationship the rules change dramatically. Even better; a prostitute at least has rules (you pay ,she'll do xyz). A "normal" woman doesn't owe you shyte. A prostitute must "fight" with strict rules and regulations. A "normal " woman (aka the streetfight) can bite, stab or shoot you. Anything goes and all is fair in love and war is the saying right?

 

[Gamisch]

I will use fighting as an analogy in my post.

OP wants to learn VIOLENCE(relationships). So, the general advice is to seek violence in a controlled environment first (aka a boxing gym). We could say" just go to the hood,challenge(=cold approach)a mofo (=woman) et voila . You might get your experience within seconds. But ,obviously OP has his reasons to be scared of this, so we go back to looking at a rather " controlled environment ". Even though we already know that a gym simply doesn't provide REAL ,limitless violence .there are strict rules.

You go to the gym and you'll learn how to spar (= feck a woman). Now mind you, even the hardest sparring session won't ever resemble a real match in the ring (= a ONS ,or FWB ) let alone a streetfight (=a REAL relationship with a strang woman) . Even though you might step inside a gym and face a young,unknown Mike Tyson who'll school you , but the chance this happens is small. (= a nice prostitute who does her work with passion and actually likes you) .

At the end of it all, a trained fighter might have more chances in a streetfight. But anyone with experiences in the Djojo, the ring, and the street will know these are vastly different from each other (= a prostitute, a ONS FWB vs a real long term relationship and eventually living together and/or marriage. )
‐-----‐-------#####################-----------

I hope my fighting/violence analogy makes sense.

So , a man without xp with women and sex can visit a professional . Even tell and pay her to "make it look like a real fight" =the gf experience. You'll at least have more affinity with women and sex. But, as mentioned before, it teaches you nothing about the nitty gritty of relationship dynamics. To refer to my first piece of writing, it might even give you a false sense of reality. In real life you wont hear " olala so handsome papi, me want fecki sucki long time you ".

The ONLY way is to actually put yourself in the (for you) most vulnerable positions; and that's facing rejection aka cold approach.

Its weekend. The cities are filled with women wanting a good time. A dope wingman ,some social skills and confidence and anything might happen. But you'll have to be there where the fun's at. And not be a socially awkward person qho hides in the corner waiting until "she " walks up to you. That's a luxury only (cute and pretty) women have. Men will have to take risk left and right to make shyte happen. And that goes for any area of life.

You can visit a 100 prostitutes, when you are in a relationship the rules change dramatically. Even better; a prostitute at least has rules (you pay ,she'll do xyz). A "normal" woman doesn't owe you shyte. A prostitute must "fight" with strict rules and regulations. A "normal " woman (aka the streetfight) can bite, stab or shoot you. Anything goes and all is fair in love and war is the saying right?

I said it before, over here prostitution is legal. So, there are some guys who gave up on "normal dating". A 5.5 overweight man with a decent job (36.000 a year) can visit a hooker every week for 100 euros and still live a decent life. That's 400 a month, so he'll have 2600 euro left per month. Thats more than enough to pay rent ,drive a decent car ect.

So the "invisible " men can be found in the sexclub on a regular. For 400 a month he'll feck literally 52 women a year. "So what's the problem Gamisch?"
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The problem is that as i said before it teaches us nothing about actual relationships or even basic approach .On the other hand you will get better in bed(more banana control). Remember: prostitutes for men =OLD for women. Its easy and readily available, but there's a catch to all of this. Just like a woman who fecks her self up by thinking that OLD is real and honest,a man gets a false sense of real dating if he pays women to pretend to like him.

Prostitutes get 2 types of clients:
- 1 men who can't get laid.
-2 Men that can get laid but want more.

If you just want to get laid; go ahead. If you want to experience a real relationship with a woman: stay away from h0es and go out in the real world ,take risks and find a "normal " woman .

 

[BackInTheGame78]

If you want to be embarrassed by guys who know how to do everything to a woman while you know how to do nothing then sure.

 

[Gamisch]

If you want to be embarrassed by guys who know how to do everything to a woman while you know how to do nothing then sure.

Exactly! Its a completely different experience to: chat up a woman, build tension and kiss and touch her passionately and finally hit her doggy vs paying a woman to sit doggy.

If you say "i want financial satisfaction " I could say.
- win the lottery
-become a criminal
-work hard and earn it

The latter will be the best imo. It will last longer, feel better and teaches you a way keep bringing in money . The other methods might work as well, but they'll provide less security and be more risky and thus less easy to maintain.

 

[corrector]

Remember: prostitutes for men =OLD for women. Its easy and readily available, but there's a catch to all of this. Just like a woman who fecks her self up by thinking that OLD is real and honest,a man gets a false sense of real dating if he pays women to pretend to like him.

That is an interesting way of looking at it.

 

[corrector]

Exactly! Its a completely different experience to: chat up a woman, build tension and kiss and touch her passionately and finally hit her doggy vs paying a woman to sit doggy.

You just went straight to sex with the escorts you dealt with? I didn't do that with the first one and felt it resembled more of a girlfriend experience where there was a sense of kissing (on her face), tension build-up, and passionate touching and dancing. It was more like that of taking a stranger, dancing with her naked and groping her and you don't really know her apart that she's nice to you and not calling the cops (of course you paid her or her establishment before). She eventually pulled down her panties and bent over on her bed (she would have let me do anal with her without protection but I could not get hard - she would not have done that if she did not genuinely like me).

It got rid of my desire to want to grope women in public. Can you imagine how much trouble you can get into if you were to randomly grope a woman in public and how for a small amount of money that can all be avoided and you could do that?

 

[Gamisch]

You just went straight to sex with the escorts you dealt with? I didn't do that with the first one and felt it resembled more of a girlfriend experience where there was a sense of kissing (on her face), tension build-up, and passionate touching and dancing. It was more like that of taking a stranger, dancing with her naked and groping her and you don't really know her apart that she's nice to you and not calling the cops (of course you paid her or her establishment before). She eventually pulled down her panties and bent over on her bed (she would have let me do anal with her without protection but I could not get hard - she would not have done that if she did not genuinely like me).

It got rid of my desire to want to grope women in public. Can you imagine how much trouble you can get into if you were to randomly grope a woman in public and how for a small amount of money that can all be avoided and you could do that?

I do like this approach though. This is more like the infamous " gf experience ". I'm surprised in a positive way bro! If you can translate this into "the real world " you'll make huge steps. So from that POV you are a good example of how a prostitute CAN help a man getting some xp.How much did you pay?

Yeah, in a sexclub its about business. Time =momey for the hookers. Again, if you got GAME you might convince a hooker to indeed dance a bit, kiss ect.

By the way, you my friend MUST start fixing your body. You do have the genetics to get a great body. Life will dramatically change when you lose that weight. I've lost 12 kG so far and it's baffling how different women viee me now vs when I was overweight.

 

[corrector]

I do like this approach though. This is more like the infamous " gf experience ". I'm surprised in a positive way bro! If you can translate this into "the real world " you'll make huge steps. So from that POV you are a good example of how a prostitute CAN help a man getting some xp.How much did you pay?

I paid $ 60 (CDN).

The establishment thought I was under 18 (was 38 y/o at the time) and was reluctant because of how young/innoscent I had looked. I had to convince them I was really older.