Should I go to a sex club to get experience?

[Plinco]

You definitely want to find a girl who likes you for who you are and I do believe that you should never pay with the expectation of getting laid, just go and have a good time. I just thought that going to this club could get me more comfortable with sex and provide me an easier environment to practice approaching women.

Maybe you'll need to experience this first hand. Go for it and learn. I wouldn't expect to learn relationship game though.

Yeah, like guys marrying women they're not even sexually attracted to.

That was actually a big learning experience for me. As I've gotten older I've felt the need to "accomplish things" and when I found a woman who ticked all of the boxes, I thought it was a smart idea to lock her down, and then find her attractive later. As it turns out, it doesn't work that way. It's important to learn from both success and mistakes.

 

[SW15]

I just thought it would be a good place for me to practice approaching women since I have no experience doing so and the sexual environment might be helpful when my sex drive goes up a lot from quitting porn, in addition to helping me get even more comfortable with being naked in front of women. I’m not surprised that single women get swarmed by the men and I’m sure that means you have a very limited window to shoot your shot and I’m sure there will be other guys trying to cut in as you’re talking to a woman in the club. Yeah I’m sure there’s a huge crowd of guys whenever a couple is having sex in a public area in the club, so I’m guess what you meant there is that you might not even get a place in the crowd to even watch, in addition to it being weird and nasty that you’ll have other dudes jerking it on each side of you. I bet some couples just opt to go to a private room in the club because it gets too out of hand.

Going to a sex club/swingers club as a single man is not going to do anything for you from a game perspective. From a game perspective, you'd get more out of directly paying a woman for sex. Going to a sex club/swingers club will just be a waste of time and money and not accomplish anything. On a typical night, you'd be lucky if 1-2 single women showed up. It's going to be mostly older couples trying to have sex with each other and maybe some other creepy, thirsty single men jerking off to watching who thought they could get laid at a sex club instead of going to a bar.

 

[CornbreadFed]

My friends go to swingers club and I wouldn’t Touch her with a pole lol.

 

[corrector]

No I haven't, but about a month ago, I was trying to get the details of a private orgy social circle from an acquaintance. It fell through though.

Why did it fall through?

 

[needimprovement250]

Maybe you'll need to experience this first hand. Go for it and learn. I wouldn't expect to learn relationship game though.

No you definitely wouldn’t learn anything about relationship game from a place like that, but maybe I should go just so I can say that I did.

 

[needimprovement250]

Going to a sex club/swingers club as a single man is not going to do anything for you from a game perspective. From a game perspective, you'd get more out of directly paying a woman for sex. Going to a sex club/swingers club will just be a waste of time and money and not accomplish anything. On a typical night, you'd be lucky if 1-2 single women showed up. It's going to be mostly older couples trying to have sex with each other and maybe some other creepy, thirsty single men jerking off to watching who thought they could get laid at a sex club instead of going to a bar.

I just had the thought that this could help get rid of any approach anxiety because if you can approach a woman in a sex club while you’re completely naked, then approaching women anywhere else while you’re fully clothed will be a lot easier. In addition to the fact that I just want something different than a relapse on porn when my sex drive goes up. I would much rather meet up with women in a regular place that isn’t a sex club and have it lead to sex, but I just can’t find any opportunities and its really frustrating. You yourself have even said before that OLD is a bust most of the time (especially swipe apps) and there’s not many other easy ways to meet women.

 

[needimprovement250]

My 2c:

Most people who visit swinger's club are experienced people (sexually speaking). They want to "spice it up". I don't think it's an environment for an inexperienced man.

Yeah I’m sure if anyone there found out that I was inexperienced, they would lose interest pretty quick. Even any single women there probably only want experienced guys who can fu*k her good. I obviously wouldn’t tell anyone there, but maybe they could figure it out by my body language in that environment. I did a deep dive in that club’s forum page and there were posts from other inexperienced men who were asking about going there, so they had the same idea.

 

[corrector]

No you definitely wouldn’t learn anything about relationship game from a place like that, but maybe I should go just so I can say that I did.

Say that you did to whom? Your future girlfriend/wife prospect? DonJuanJr? There is no bragging rights to going to such a place in the state that you are in. It is grasping at straws.

 

[corrector]

Yeah I’m sure if anyone there found out that I was inexperienced, they would lose interest pretty quick. Even any single women there probably only want experienced guys who can fu*k her good. I obviously wouldn’t tell anyone there, but maybe they could figure it out by my body language in that environment.

They might ask for your ID to prove you are over 18 years old. Inexperience comes across like you are even a minor.

I kid you not. When I visited the prostitute back in 2014, the madam of the house was concerned that I was a minor and that I was under 18 years old (was 38 years old at the time). It doesn't matter your age.

 

[needimprovement250]

One nite I needed to sober up before I drove home so I pulled into the parking lot of a swingers club and watched the people come and go for about an hour. I didn't see one girl I would have sex with. Mostly 5's and 6's.

Yeah on their forum page, some women actually posted pics of themselves in the threads, and none of them were hot and that didn’t really surprise me.

 

[needimprovement250]

Say that you did to whom? Your future girlfriend/wife prospect? DonJuanJr? There is no bragging rights to going to such a place in the state that you are in. It is grasping at straws.

To myself mostly since I’ve been curious about this place for so long. Like I said, if I could find someone a different way, then I probably wouldn’t even consider this.

 

[corrector]

I just had the thought that this could help get rid of any approach anxiety because if you can approach a woman in a sex club while you’re completely naked, then approaching women anywhere else while you’re fully clothed will be a lot easier. In addition to the fact that I just want something different than a relapse on porn when my sex drive goes up. I would much rather meet up with women in a regular place that isn’t a sex club and have it lead to sex, but I just can’t find any opportunities and its really frustrating. You yourself have even said before that OLD is a bust most of the time (especially swipe apps) and there’s not many other easy ways to meet women.

You just said you are not meeting women to approach in the first place. Why would you need to feel more comfortable about approaching them if you are not having opportunities (ie meaning the women is not there to approach)? Why do you think that experience would really filter down into your normal real-life interactions?

 

[needimprovement250]

They might ask for your ID to prove you are over 18 years old. Inexperience comes across like you are even a minor.

I kid you not. When I visited the prostitute back in 2014, the madam of the house was concerned that I was a minor and that I was under 18 years old (was 38 years old at the time). It doesn't matter your age.

Yeah people said on their forum page you have to show your ID at the front desk. I would probably go with a wallet sized passport card because those don’t have your street address on them and I would be too sketched out to give this place a document that has my address on it.

Damn, so if you have a youthful appearance and a nervous body language, it can be really obvious that you don’t have experience then.

 

[needimprovement250]

You just said you are not meeting women to approach in the first place. Why would you need to feel more comfortable about approaching them if you are not having opportunities (ie meaning the women is not there to approach)? Why do you think that experience would really filter down into your normal real-life interactions?

Yeah I am not because I haven’t had any opportunities in so many years. Because I’ve never approached before and I don’t want my 30’s to be the same way as my teens and 20’s. I thought that if you can approach women when you’re completely naked, then approaching women in regular places and fully clothed would be a lot easier.

 

[corrector]

Yeah people said on their forum page you have to show your ID at the front desk. I would probably go with a wallet sized passport card because those don’t have your street address on them and I would be too sketched out to give this place a document that has my address on it.

Damn, so if you have a youthful appearance and a nervous body language, it can be really obvious that you don’t have experience then.

You might look like a minor.

 

[needimprovement250]

You might look like a minor.

Its hit and miss when I get carded for alcohol, so who knows. Do you think I should give AdultFriendFinder a try instead lol

 

[SW15]

You yourself have even said before that OLD is a bust most of the time (especially swipe apps) and there’s not many other easy ways to meet women.

I have said that and I stand by that statement. You're going to have to fix your PIED and living situation first, then figure out your Game situation. Approaching in-person is better than the swipe apps or sending DMs on social media. Approaching in a sex/swingers club is not a good use of time.

I just had the thought that this could help get rid of any approach anxiety because if you can approach a woman in a sex club while you’re completely naked, then approaching women anywhere else while you’re fully clothed will be a lot easier.

I don't think nudity is going to solve your approach anxiety.

 

[needimprovement250]

I have said that and I stand by that statement. You're going to have to fix your PIED and living situation first, then figure out your Game situation. Approaching in-person is better than the swipe apps or sending DMs on social media. Approaching in a sex/swingers club is not a good use of time.



I don't think nudity is going to solve your approach anxiety.

I know, I just get demoralized because PIED can take so long to be cured. Corrector said that certain herbals can help with it and I’d be willing to give anything that isn’t viagra a try in order to speed up PIED recovery. My living situation is another reason why I thought this could be a good idea because in the extremely slim chance that I did get laid at the club, they have private bedrooms to have sex in. I always thought that if I ever did meet anyone and my living situation is still the same that I would get us hotel rooms if that would work. I guess its just a matter of finding the right places for in person approaches. I thought that having to do in person approaches while nude would actually make regular approaching a lot easier by comparison, but who knows.

 

[corrector]

Its hit and miss when I get carded for alcohol, so who knows. Do you think I should give AdultFriendFinder a try instead lol

I tried it in 2006 and it worked okay for that year (ie November, 2006 was the only month it was used in that year, or ever). I could of met someone but chickened out with the influence of my c-blocking parents.

I wrote a blog and sent out messages relentlessly and wasn't aware of things like chads/popular guys, at a time where movies like 40 Year Virgin (2005) was popular and the zeiguist was pro-game/pro-red-pill. I was on there as I felt frustrated and rejected by another girl I met on the internet earlier on the same year that I had a crush on and then found out the hard way on some blog she wrote that she was pumped and dumped and I was totally shocked and lost confidence with her and felt if women are going to be like that in normal dating sites, what do I have to lose with an explicit one like AFF right?

 

[needimprovement250]

I don't know why corrector is fixated on me throughout this conversation, but anyways...I think going would make you more comfortable with human sexuality and therefore your own. So this would be the sole reason to go. Though, you can approach lower value women through various methods until you get one that wants sex, and you will get more comfortable with your sexuality through that means also.

That’s what I thought too. I’m sure there will be a ton of other men trying to get with the women who are in the club, but just being in a highly sexual environment like that could help. They also have an outdoor pool and jacuzzi, so I could always go for a swim too if nothing else lol.