"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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she's getting frustrated because i won't be manipulated

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Lots of chump hit on this girl etc. and get her head really big. I think she's aight. Now she's expressing lots of frustration because I refuse to be manipulated by her into treating her like a little helpless princess.

Have any of you been hitting on an egotistical chick like this and run into this barrier where you can't qualify her because she doesn't know how to qualify herself like a normal person?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Yeah, and I usually bang them for it.
 
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yes, I have ran into this also.
 
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Yeah. It's kind of a "Challenge meets Challenge" situation.

The girl kind of ends up wanting you just because you're one of the few guys who isn't bowing down to her. And you want her because she's of high status in her own way.
 
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Yuuup! This is how my last LTR started. She actually said to me once: "you don't flood me with compliments or kiss my ass like other guys I've dated, so when you do say something or you're nice to me it feels great" with a huge smile on my face. I think I got some action while I was driving after that...anyway, I'm going off on a tangent, haha. You get the idea. Don't kiss-->:moon:

Reward her good behavior with things she likes. Just like you'd reward a little girl after she did her chores or finished her quiz with an "A" in school. When asked " hey, can we hangout tomorrow? Come over to my house" I'd say: "only if you behave" or " what's in it for me?" And then she'd offer to cook for me or give me an unforgetable night, or respond with " I'll behaaave, I'll behave! what time should I expect you?."

Thank you Jesus for the DJ knowledge!!!
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Robyn923b said:
Yuuup! This is how my last LTR started. She actually said to me once: "you don't flood me with compliments or kiss my ass like other guys I've dated, so when you do say something or you're nice to me it feels great" with a huge smile on my face. I think I got some action while I was driving after that...anyway, I'm going off on a tangent, haha. You get the idea. Don't kiss-->:moon:

Reward her good behavior with things she likes. Just like you'd reward a little girl after she did her chores or finished her quiz with an "A" in school. When asked " hey, can we hangout tomorrow? Come over to my house" I'd say: "only if you behave" or " what's in it for me?" And then she'd offer to cook for me or give me an unforgetable night, or respond with " I'll behaaave, I'll behave! what time should I expect you?."

Thank you Jesus for the DJ knowledge!!!
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Have you ever actually tried this in an LTR?

Because this gets old and goofy after 2 weeks. Its too much effort to keep up playful and challenging replies every time. Rewarding when she does good things is the same thing. You need to ignore more than you reward or else it will get old for both of you fast.
 
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Ease said:
Have you ever actually tried this in an LTR?

Because this gets old and goofy after 2 weeks. Its too much effort to keep up playful and challenging replies every time. Rewarding when she does good things is the same thing. You need to ignore more than you reward or else it will get old for both of you fast.
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A lot of that guy's suggestions tend to be on the goofy side. Sounds a bit canned, doesn't it?
 
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Mantis Toboggan said:
A lot of that guy's suggestions tend to be on the goofy side. Sounds a bit canned, doesn't it?
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Isn't that the whole point of this, to have fun?
 
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Ease said:
Have you ever actually tried this in an LTR?

Because this gets old and goofy after 2 weeks. Its too much effort to keep up playful and challenging replies every time. Rewarding when she does good things is the same thing. You need to ignore more than you reward or else it will get old for both of you fast.
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It's not easy but it isn't rocket science. I did it for 2 1/2 years with my ex gf and it worked like a charm. You have to do it once in a while because if you do it too much it'll lose its value. They like it when you're different.

You can try kissing azz though and see how that goes for you, but this works great for me!
 
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