"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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she's getting frustrated because i won't be manipulated

piday314

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Lots of chump hit on this girl etc. and get her head really big. I think she's aight. Now she's expressing lots of frustration because I refuse to be manipulated by her into treating her like a little helpless princess.

Have any of you been hitting on an egotistical chick like this and run into this barrier where you can't qualify her because she doesn't know how to qualify herself like a normal person?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Yeah, and I usually bang them for it.
 

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yes, I have ran into this also.
 

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Yeah. It's kind of a "Challenge meets Challenge" situation.

The girl kind of ends up wanting you just because you're one of the few guys who isn't bowing down to her. And you want her because she's of high status in her own way.
 

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Yuuup! This is how my last LTR started. She actually said to me once: "you don't flood me with compliments or kiss my ass like other guys I've dated, so when you do say something or you're nice to me it feels great" with a huge smile on my face. I think I got some action while I was driving after that...anyway, I'm going off on a tangent, haha. You get the idea. Don't kiss-->:moon:

Reward her good behavior with things she likes. Just like you'd reward a little girl after she did her chores or finished her quiz with an "A" in school. When asked " hey, can we hangout tomorrow? Come over to my house" I'd say: "only if you behave" or " what's in it for me?" And then she'd offer to cook for me or give me an unforgetable night, or respond with " I'll behaaave, I'll behave! what time should I expect you?."

Thank you Jesus for the DJ knowledge!!!
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Robyn923b said:
Yuuup! This is how my last LTR started. She actually said to me once: "you don't flood me with compliments or kiss my ass like other guys I've dated, so when you do say something or you're nice to me it feels great" with a huge smile on my face. I think I got some action while I was driving after that...anyway, I'm going off on a tangent, haha. You get the idea. Don't kiss-->:moon:

Reward her good behavior with things she likes. Just like you'd reward a little girl after she did her chores or finished her quiz with an "A" in school. When asked " hey, can we hangout tomorrow? Come over to my house" I'd say: "only if you behave" or " what's in it for me?" And then she'd offer to cook for me or give me an unforgetable night, or respond with " I'll behaaave, I'll behave! what time should I expect you?."

Thank you Jesus for the DJ knowledge!!!

Have you ever actually tried this in an LTR?

Because this gets old and goofy after 2 weeks. Its too much effort to keep up playful and challenging replies every time. Rewarding when she does good things is the same thing. You need to ignore more than you reward or else it will get old for both of you fast.
 

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Ease said:
Have you ever actually tried this in an LTR?

Because this gets old and goofy after 2 weeks. Its too much effort to keep up playful and challenging replies every time. Rewarding when she does good things is the same thing. You need to ignore more than you reward or else it will get old for both of you fast.
A lot of that guy's suggestions tend to be on the goofy side. Sounds a bit canned, doesn't it?
 

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Mantis Toboggan said:
A lot of that guy's suggestions tend to be on the goofy side. Sounds a bit canned, doesn't it?
Isn't that the whole point of this, to have fun?
 

Masculinity

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Ease said:
Have you ever actually tried this in an LTR?

Because this gets old and goofy after 2 weeks. Its too much effort to keep up playful and challenging replies every time. Rewarding when she does good things is the same thing. You need to ignore more than you reward or else it will get old for both of you fast.
It's not easy but it isn't rocket science. I did it for 2 1/2 years with my ex gf and it worked like a charm. You have to do it once in a while because if you do it too much it'll lose its value. They like it when you're different.

You can try kissing azz though and see how that goes for you, but this works great for me!
 
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