"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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She wanna get to quickly into a relationship

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Met a girl this weekend, and she seemed to felt in love really quickly. She said she want something serious and dont want only having fun or casual dating.

That before our first date talking on whatsapp and in our first date she started calling me "Love", about marrying, etc.

She is nice, but that sounded to me like a red flag, but would like to hear some feedbacks here. It just doesnt seem normal.

So after that I gave a look on her social media... She is a model and I observed her interactions there.

I got some kind of hypergamy, following good looking guys, and interacting a lot with them like commenting photos, likes, etc. The ugly ones she just ignore and doesnt follow back or interact.

Also some gay guys, she seem to have a lot of gay friends too.

Putting those points because IMO how a woman behave on social media can tell a lot about her... So I started to observe that.

The thing is that, why she is so desperate to assume a LTR with me? I didnt even talk about that... I told that we should meet each other to see if we are gonna like each other during time.

I feel something is wrong, I just didnt link the pieces yet.

EDIT: also she told me she lost her virginity this year (she is 26) and Im her second guy.

And it took me one kiss to put her at my bed naked and horny. She arrived at my place and we just started kissing and had sex. So I was like internally "Oh yeah, second guy she didnt want to have sex on first date... I must have a gold dck or this talk is pure lie".
 
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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If you play this right she could be your long term plate.. Just doesnt give in to her demands for your emotion.. Keep your emotions away from this one. A giant red flags.. Unless shes been eyeing you for quite sometime admiring you before she profess thats another whole of story.
 

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If you play this right she could be your long term plate.. Just doesnt give in to her demands for your emotion.. Keep your emotions away from this one. A giant red flags.. Unless shes been eyeing you for quite sometime admiring you before she profess thats another whole of story.
Couldn't that create headaches or problems? Like she will try to commit to something serious and will start to try to cut down my other plates so I became exclusive to her.

The way I can see it working was playing the game, also lying and not believing in anything she say.

About emotion, I can't have feelings for someone who I know its not being genuine in her words or actions.
 

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Like she will try to commit to something serious
Yes thats the point you have to keep your emotions away so she will keep chasing you while her changing guys behind your back.. She will not stick with the other guy who will give her the emotions she wants.. It will sated her and leave.. But she will stick with you even she banging other guy.

and will start to try to cut down my other plates so I became exclusive to her.
Good it keeping her in check and keep her hamster spun likes nuts.

The way I can see it working was playing the game, also lying and not believing in anything she say.
Fully agreed.

About emotion, I can't have feelings for someone who I know its not being genuine in her words or actions
Keep your feeling incheck and your guts wont lie to you!
 

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OP, believe it or not, I was in the exact situation as you did with this girl.

Truth is, she doesn't want a "relationship" or "love" or any bullsh!t that came out from her mouth. What she truly wants (regardless she's consciously aware of it or not) is Emotional Stimulation. She's an addict who constantly craves that "high" feeling that she currently associates with you - for now.

So, like @Focal core said: if you play this correctly, you can make her your long term plate, no more no less. This girl is perfect for crazy fvck and that's it. Don't even think for a second that you can build anything "serious" with her.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Couldn't that create headaches or problems? Like she will try to commit to something serious and will start to try to cut down my other plates so I became exclusive to her.

The way I can see it working was playing the game, also lying and not believing in anything she say.

About emotion, I can't have feelings for someone who I know its not being genuine in her words or actions.
She will keep saying that she wants to commit to something serious but she doesn't actually want it. Just lips service. And don't worry about giving her a little sense of competition. Your job, is to not develop any "special" feelings for her, fvck her like an animal, and leave it at that. Always trust your guts feelings, and never let emotions control yourself.
 

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Hi Black Sheep,
Wonder if she has a bun in the oven?
 

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OP, I just found the perfect word to describe your situation: "LOVEBOMBS"

Hell yeah, she'll lovebomb you to make you believe that she's all in for love and relationship and sh!t like that. But the moment you get naive enough to really buy that bullsh!t, she'd leave your azz faster than Usain Bolt.

Trust me, women like her are only good for being plates, no more no less.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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OP, believe it or not, I was in the exact situation as you did with this girl.

Truth is, she doesn't want a "relationship" or "love" or any bullsh!t that came out from her mouth. What she truly wants (regardless she's consciously aware of it or not) is Emotional Stimulation. She's an addict who constantly craves that "high" feeling that she currently associates with you - for now.

So, like @Focal core said: if you play this correctly, you can make her your long term plate, no more no less. This girl is perfect for crazy fvck and that's it. Don't even think for a second that you can build anything "serious" with her.
That's true man!

But as I saw yesterday, I've met like her "second" mother who saved her from her narcissist biologic mother... I saw clear signs that this second mother was not very normal. Also she make some lovebombing with this girl while also rejecting her when she doesnt do what she wants.

That second mother told me that: what are your intentions? You should either be her boyfriend or leave. Cause she doesnt agree with the fact of people just dating without anything serious.

Damn, that seems freakin insane.

I'm thinking that it doesnt even worth to risk myself into that... I have to get out of it, but I must be smart so it doesnt create any problems. Cause at the moment I say I will not see her... I'm sure she will come after me and do all those bullsh1ts of trying to find me, come at my place or this second mother try to say something.
 

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Treat her like other slvt even shes lovebombing you hiroshima style. :cool: your job are to bomb that pvssy deep and hard.
The funny thing is that I can feel excited with those type of women... The same happen with the one that talka bout the rape thing.

I have another plate that we meet each other from time to time and have a very nice sex. I can fck her 3 times without having issues with erection. She is no like a hot woman, but she is not crazy and she seems to have this genuine desire for me. So I got as hard as fck and it's very good.

Now whenever I date some weird and crazy women, it seems my dck alert me hahaha. And I have to follow that, because I thought it would be my anxiety, but I'm observing thats not. Spotting women like this one, my whole body tells me to stay away.

The thing is that maybe there is better plates, even not being the hottest... But just being a bit normal could be enough.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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