"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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she says "i think that was a bad idea" after having sex

foomee

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After having sex this girl tells me, "i think that was a bad idea..." Anyways, wth is that supposed to mean? We're very good friends so that may be it. What other reasons might she say that?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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why do you care what she thinks? If you enjoyed it, reply "I disagree, i had a lot of fun".. Its about YOU, not her
 

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The dynamic of your relationship has changed and she is unsure about where you two stand in regards to how she feels about you.
 

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BURN.


But seriously, who cares? They're just words. Remember, actions speak louder than words. I'm starting to learn to tune out pretty much all that bull****.
 

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The dynamic of your relationship has changed and she is unsure about where you two stand in regards to how she feels about you.
I agree. Or the sex wasn't good?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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She just texted me saying, "our little secret right? i feel kinda bad"
I say..."Pinky promise. But why do you feel bad?"
She says..."idk. denise. and just other stuff. u don't feel bad?"


denise is my ex, who last semester was this girl's suitemate.
although denise hooked up with my suitemate a few weeks after we broke up.
so it kinda all works out.
 

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I think u just won today's award for the gayest text... 'pinky promise'...wtf?? just be straight with the chick... tell her you liked the way she tossed and turned, and you don't mind making her feel oohh soo good again.
 

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Its often just another ASD, anti-slut defense - if i'm remembering the term correctly. They're afraid that if they don't say something like that, then they will come across as a hor.

So don't sweat it. They want to still be "good girls" so let them play their mind tricks with themselves. Its part of the justification process, you see.
 

Francisco d'Anconia

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I just would have texted "Oh, should I remove the video from YouTube?"
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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usually it means she just got the worst of both worlds. A woman would have sex with the pope if it was good, bedpost clintching toe curling sex.

now, she just had bad sex with a guy she can't no longer be friends with.
 

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I agree it's "buyer's remorse" or "anti-slvt defence", maybe mixed with some good old attention seeking. She gave it up too easily, now she wants you to make her feel valuable and chase after her.

I've been in a similar situation many times with female friends throwing themselves at me, then backing off the next day. At one time I always made the mistake of playing into their drama, chasing after them and trying to prove that it meant something to me.

Then I learned the right way to handle it...

Whenever a female friend tells me she regrets something she did with me, I play it cool and indifferent. I.e. "I don't remember much about what happened, but hope we can still be friends" or "No big deal. Let's pretend it never happened."

She'll probably get angry or uptight, but that's good...it's an emotional reaction. It's also a sign of frustration because she can't control you like she expected.

Whatever you do, don't give anything away about how you felt about it. If she asks, tell her "Let's not talk about it" or "Let's just put it in the past now." In my experience, this will drive her crazy and she won't stop thinking about you!



Francisco d'Anconia said:
I just would have texted "Oh, should I remove the video from YouTube?"
Nice one! :crackup:

This will also work btw. Show's you aren't being that serious about it.
 

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It's b/c like you said you are 'good friends'. To us guys we can have sex with girls who are friends and it's no big deal. But to girls, they put all there relationships into little neat boxes. Over here there's this guy who's potentially a boyfriend, here's the guy or 2 that she hangs out with every now and then, and then over here there's this guy or 2 that she cries to when she has a problem (he is like a brother). I know several girls who say I'm like a brother to them. For the most part its cool I'm not interested in them so it works out fine. If they have sex with someone in the "brother" category now he's different, he's changed and she feels she will never have it like it was before. To you its probly just getting your rocks off and nothing more. To her its a relationship changing event because now you're possibly in a new "box".
 

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It could be a rejection (bad sex) or could be caution(anti-slvt defence).

Just keep doing your thing and pretend as if she just commented on the weather. Don't focus on her words but her actions.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I've had three ways with girls who've considered me a "good friend" and there's no such thing as ASD. A girl will fukk under optimal conditions whether her sorrority sisters are there video taping it or not, you just have to be the right guy at the right time.
 
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