"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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She gave me a 'side hug'...however she's agreed to go out again?

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Had a first date with this girl I've known for a while...I went in to hug her as we greeted..and she turned her body to one side so we huged with our hips side by side...(yeah really weird). Kinda threw me off my game for a bit but I tried to recover and save face.

She emails me the next day...and we're going out again soon....

Why would she want to go out again if she's not even comfortable with a normal hug?....Am I toast here?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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You are reading into a hug too much.

Stay in your own frame.

JJ
 
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Jay Jay said:
You are reading into a hug too much.

Stay in your own frame.

JJ
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i'm reading too much into it huh

stay in your own frame?
 
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I think you're reading too much into it too. She's not ready for a full body contact hug. But, she's cool with you being in each others space. And, she wants to go out again.. so what's the problem? You're being treated fine, and it's progressing.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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I generally agree with the others. You don't have to fuvk or kiss a girl during the first time you meet her for it to go anywhere. Just build the tension up slowly and if she is attracted, it will all fall together as she gets comfortable.
 
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Except this time around, hang out with her like you would with a buddy. She probably saw you trying to get intimate and stuff but she threw a wrench in the mix, now it's your turn.
 
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I'd totally give her a side-hug too next time u guys hug... and poke fun at it... be like "oh, I thought the side-hug was your speciality"...just be goofy/funny, etc, and she'll probably enjoy it and feel more comfy with you.

Ya and I think these guys are right about you over-analyzing...just get out there and have FUN!
 
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Jay Jay said:
You are reading into a hug too much.

Stay in your own frame.

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I don't know. I would first consider what they did on their previous date. Specifically, how much money he spent on her.
 
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