Joe Stud
Master Don Juan
Hahaha so true!
Let's pray for a "Hail Mary" successful date. He needs it.
Let's pray for a "Hail Mary" successful date. He needs it.
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
She flaked on me twice... is it my turn now?
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"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
tsmith2334
Master Don Juan
Date went quite well.
Dinner was very engaging. We always have plenty to talk about. My C+F has gotten really good (without seeming like I'm trying too hard). I also made sure to kino her a bit.
The movie was even better. Shrek 4 is a great date movie BTW. Fun and light-hearted and the whole plot is about the two main characters having a magical kiss. Way more kino during the film.
I took note of her body language and looked for IOIs, green lights all-around. And yes, I kiss closed.
Dinner was very engaging. We always have plenty to talk about. My C+F has gotten really good (without seeming like I'm trying too hard). I also made sure to kino her a bit.
The movie was even better. Shrek 4 is a great date movie BTW. Fun and light-hearted and the whole plot is about the two main characters having a magical kiss. Way more kino during the film.
I took note of her body language and looked for IOIs, green lights all-around. And yes, I kiss closed.
tsmith2334
Master Don Juan
Haha, funny how the naysayers dissapear pretty quickly. I'm just gonna take this one from here. But thanks everybody for the feedback (good or bad)tsmith2334 said:
Joe Stud
Master Don Juan
I guess you can continue the celebration dance. "several dates over a course of a couple of years, and now you got the ultimate... kiss close".
He!! you are on the fast track now. Maybe in a year or two, you can grab her breast... under the sweater!!
He!! you are on the fast track now. Maybe in a year or two, you can grab her breast... under the sweater!!
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
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tsmith2334 said:
How much money did you spend on this date? Not hating at all, just a simple question.
DonGorgon
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Very good I'm happy for u
tsmith2334
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$0Rescue Mission said:
Bought dinner using a gift car I got for Christmas (specific to the restaurant, not a cash gift card) and our theater does Free Ticket Tuesday if you subscribe to a certain cable company (hence setting the date up for Tuesday). Being that the movie was in 3D we had to pay $3.50 extra for the glasses, which she paid for (since I "treated" dinner on the gift card).
Altogether it would have been under $40, but it ended up costing me $0 (which she knew going in) and her $7.
Igetit!
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Ok,you went out on a date with her and it went well.tsmith2334 said:
So now what? I remember somewhere in an earlier post of yours where you said something about "turning it into something more".
What did you mean by that? Having sex? Becoming boyfriend and girlfriend? Getting engaged? I always thought it was odd of how you planned on going from trying to decide whether or not to flake on this girl,to trying to "make something more" with her just like that,but whatever man.
Well you got your date and she didn't flake. Cool
. Did the subject of her flaking (or cancelling) on you the two previous times ever come up?
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tsmith2334 said:
EXCELLENT!
Just want I wanted to hear!!
And keep in mind for future reference, the only $$ you need to ever spend on this girl would be for wine to get her tipsy, and for condoms to keep yourself protected........otherwise, as long as you are fun, sexual, and dominant, you should be able to seduce her into fvcking in no time!
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Joe Stud
Master Don Juan
You better start savin up for a condom. At the breakneck speed you are movin... in 2 or 3 short years you are gonna need it! :crackup:
tsmith2334
Master Don Juan
Nothing but bullies and negativity on here, I swear. Weren't you the same person swearing up and down I wouldn't kiss close?Joe Stud said:
Can I ask why you feel the need to make such comments? May I ask what you're try to accomplish? Is it because you're 54 and bitter?
I feel bad that you feel the need to belittle others due to your own insecurities.
tsmith2334
Master Don Juan
Do you not read?vatoloco said:LOL. It's more like "You can lead a horse to water..."
We've told you. You've refused to listen. There's not much we can add, is there?
The naysayers said there was no chance she'd show up, let alone be interested or that I could close.
They were wrong on all fronts.
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What exactly was your goal here? To get a kiss so you can come back here and be a diva about it? Who's being negative?
Sh*t often times doesn't work out in real life the way SS says it will. I think we all realize that. That being said, you got a kiss. You didn't 'win' something, and you're better off without that mentality, trust me. Whoever shall exalt himself, shall be humbled, YO.
Sh*t often times doesn't work out in real life the way SS says it will. I think we all realize that. That being said, you got a kiss. You didn't 'win' something, and you're better off without that mentality, trust me. Whoever shall exalt himself, shall be humbled, YO.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
tsmith2334
Master Don Juan
Damn dude, fair point. Interesting stuff. Repped.Forty0ztoFreedom said:
Joe Stud
Master Don Juan
Show me where I said this:
I swear. Weren't you the same person swearing up and down I wouldn't kiss close?
Now this is what I said:
You're boring her to death. moving too slow. What part of: "make the hoe say no", don't you understand??
You dont really listen attentively. I was playfully trying to lite a fire under you a$$. You are moving too slow, and she is gonna see you as a nice guy / friend.
I'm not bitter at all bro, just teasing a little.
I swear. Weren't you the same person swearing up and down I wouldn't kiss close?
Now this is what I said:
You're boring her to death. moving too slow. What part of: "make the hoe say no", don't you understand??
You dont really listen attentively. I was playfully trying to lite a fire under you a$$. You are moving too slow, and she is gonna see you as a nice guy / friend.
I'm not bitter at all bro, just teasing a little.
tsmith2334
Master Don Juan
Thanks man, I appreciate it. Repped.Joe Stud said:
That said, I've spent way too much time on what should just be considered a standard date.
Right now my only goal is to spin plates (whether it's her or someone else) and to have fun. I really can't argue with anyone who says I'm over-thinking it, so this is the last you'll hear from me on this particular girl.
If I can't get my mentality where it needs to be the women (and happiness) won't follow.
So it works out with her, great. If not, on to the next one.
Thanks everyone for your input, and Joe Stud thanks for the kick in the ass.
Smith
Joe Stud
Master Don Juan
You are young yet, my friend Smitty... you will do fine. Moving in the right direction. God Bless.
BTW... i already repped you for the story, details, and results reporting
BTW... i already repped you for the story, details, and results reporting
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.