Joe Stud
Master Don Juan
Hahaha so true!
Let's pray for a "Hail Mary" successful date. He needs it.
Let's pray for a "Hail Mary" successful date. He needs it.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Haha, funny how the naysayers dissapear pretty quickly. I'm just gonna take this one from here. But thanks everybody for the feedback (good or bad)tsmith2334 said:Date went quite well.
Dinner was very engaging. We always have plenty to talk about. My C+F has gotten really good (without seeming like I'm trying too hard). I also made sure to kino her a bit.
The movie was even better. Shrek 4 is a great date movie BTW. Fun and light-hearted and the whole plot is about the two main characters having a magical kiss. Way more kino during the film.
I took note of her body language and looked for IOIs, green lights all-around. And yes, I kiss closed.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
tsmith2334 said:Date went quite well.
Dinner was very engaging. We always have plenty to talk about. My C+F has gotten really good (without seeming like I'm trying too hard). I also made sure to kino her a bit.
The movie was even better. Shrek 4 is a great date movie BTW. Fun and light-hearted and the whole plot is about the two main characters having a magical kiss. Way more kino during the film.
I took note of her body language and looked for IOIs, green lights all-around. And yes, I kiss closed.
$0Rescue Mission said:How much money did you spend on this date? Not hating at all, just a simple question.
Ok,you went out on a date with her and it went well.tsmith2334 said:Date went quite well.
Dinner was very engaging. We always have plenty to talk about. My C+F has gotten really good (without seeming like I'm trying too hard). I also made sure to kino her a bit.
The movie was even better. Shrek 4 is a great date movie BTW. Fun and light-hearted and the whole plot is about the two main characters having a magical kiss. Way more kino during the film.
I took note of her body language and looked for IOIs, green lights all-around. And yes, I kiss closed.
tsmith2334 said:$0
Bought dinner using a gift car I got for Christmas (specific to the restaurant, not a cash gift card) and our theater does Free Ticket Tuesday if you subscribe to a certain cable company (hence setting the date up for Tuesday). Being that the movie was in 3D we had to pay $3.50 extra for the glasses, which she paid for (since I "treated" dinner on the gift card).
Altogether it would have been under $40, but it ended up costing me $0 (which she knew going in) and her $7.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Nothing but bullies and negativity on here, I swear. Weren't you the same person swearing up and down I wouldn't kiss close?Joe Stud said:You better start savin up for a condom. At the breakneck speed you are movin... in 2 or 3 short years you are gonna need it! :crackup:
LOL. It's more like "You can lead a horse to water..."tsmith2334 said:Haha, funny how the naysayers dissapear pretty quickly. I'm just gonna take this one from here. But thanks everybody for the feedback (good or bad)
Do you not read?vatoloco said:LOL. It's more like "You can lead a horse to water..."
We've told you. You've refused to listen. There's not much we can add, is there?![]()
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Damn dude, fair point. Interesting stuff. Repped.Forty0ztoFreedom said:That being said, you got a kiss. You didn't 'win' something, and you're better off without that mentality, trust me. Whoever shall exalt himself, shall be humbled, YO.
Thanks man, I appreciate it. Repped.Joe Stud said:I was playfully trying to lite a fire under you a$$. You are moving too slow, and she is gonna see you as a nice guy / friend.
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.