"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
she avoids questions and it's annoying as fvck
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Hitman10000
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It's not going to get any better.
You rationalize because you've met her parents, you think you're pimp and it's "aight". I don't think so. When someone is comfortable/trustful/anonymous with another person, they tell it all. Dunno about you, but I wouldn't want to be in a relationship where I didn't feel comfortable with someone else who wasn't that comfortable with me.
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Believe it or not, women aren't THAT hard to understand. Let me know what you think of D.D.'s ebooks, there are a few others authors who you could learn allot from.chandidas said:thanks!!!
i think i gave up on trying to 'understand' women! lol
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
Maybe unnecessary by your definition but what makes you think that she would change if she was always this way? You saw it, you chose accept it. The question now is whether or not either of you are willing to be reasonable.******* said:always...but before it was reasonable. Now, after so many months it's just unnesesary.
The best that could happen is you guys accepting some common ground while still feeling comfortable. What are the two of you willing to do?
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
How the ****' does meeting her parents makes me think im a pimp??? If i though it was "ight" then why would i make a post about it??? You sound like an idiot. But anyways......Hitman10000 said:Seems like you've already voiced out your opinion about how she's having conversations and she still is being secretive.
It's not going to get any better.
You rationalize because you've met her parents, you think you're pimp and it's "aight". I don't think so. When someone is comfortable/trustful/anonymous with another person, they tell it all. Dunno about you, but I wouldn't want to be in a relationship where I didn't feel comfortable with someone else who wasn't that comfortable with me.
francisco....
I told her something along those lines. she already knows how i feel and said she agrees that she should be able to tell me anything and will try. Don't know how much time to give her.
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
If you've already "genuinely" offered to be her soft place to fall, the only other thing you can do is to be patient. As long as she isn't impeding on your livelihood you shouldn't have a problem.******* said:...
francisco....
I told her something along those lines. she already knows how i feel and said she agrees that she should be able to tell me anything and will try. Don't know how much time to give her.
RedPill
Master Don Juan
If I were you I would call her ass out when she does this from now on. You need to shock this broad into reality - at least into your reality, where BS, and a lack of honesty and accountability don't cut it. Next time she's with you and tries to pull this with you tell her to go the fvck home until she learns to be honest with you like a grown-up. You don't have time for little girls.
She'll respond to you in one of two ways:
1) she'll stop talking to you and go find herself some chump who will put up with her games
2) she'll be mad at you, but get highly turned on with the way you stood up to her and come running back to you to get banged senseless.
Either way you win.