"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Sex with other gilrs whilst in a relationship advice
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
dustmuffin
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The gist within experienced women is that guys always screw others as long as they come back to the wife and keep it quiet is deemed to be normal ?
dustmuffin
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I expect loyalty from the woman I am in an ltr or marriage with. I give her the same. If she doesn't I leave. If I can't I leave. Its simple.
amazingswayze
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
amazingswayze
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lol its just a vid i saw a while ago. it was so controversial at the time so i find it funny to post here. i don't necessarily agree though.... lmao ruler
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I think the main point to making this work is to not do it if it will hurt her feelings, which it obviously will not if she accepts an open relationship. Another point to make is fairness, if you can have the freedom to fvck someone else so should she.
An open relationship is one where you're in a relationship and have mutually agreed it's ok to fvck someone else, mostly without letting it affect the relationship. So clearly this approach requires you to be pretty strong emotionally, to not become attached to the others you fvck. It's also a good idea to inform the others you fvck that you're in an open relationship and you're doing it just for the sex.
This might seem like a lot to handle, and it is. I'm telling you because it will keep you out of trouble and you'll have to stick to it to not make a mess. It's perfectly possible to do this, but since it's not normal you must communicate it clearly.
The other alternative is to be a pvssy and not tell the truth to the person you supposedly love. That's what we commonly refer to as cheating, it only works as long as you're not caught. Eventually it will break down and she will know the truth, from that point you're fvcked. Not just because of the cheating itself, but because you broke the number one rule of healthy relationships which is trust and honesty.
Please use your brain before going near this.