You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
Amen.Mr Charisma said:This place just gets worse and worse.
I miss the days when this place used to mean something.
Aww isn't that cute? Every message board there's people like you who say the same thing. Repeatedly. As if it's a new observation and you're so clever. What do you want?Mr Charisma said:This place just gets worse and worse.
I miss the days when this place used to mean something.
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
If many people are saying this then perhaps it's time something should be done about these moronic threads. Don't you agree?mrRuckus said:Aww isn't that cute? Every message board there's people like you who say the same thing. Repeatedly. As if it's a new observation and you're so clever.
I want sensible questions that relate to seduction. Isn't that what this place is about? Do you think a question like this would be tolerated on another forum such as mASF? Course not.mrRuckus said:What do you want?
I've come to accept that these posts just gives us insight into the types of guys we are competing with when sarging. No worries here...Mr Charisma said:If many people are saying this then perhaps it's time something should be done about these moronic threads. Don't you agree?
I want sensible questions that relate to seduction. Isn't that what this place is about? Do you think a question like this would be tolerated on another forum such as mASF? Course not.
This place used to have thought-provoking posts. Now we're stuck with sh*t like:
"Hey guys, someone told me that it's not a good idea to vomit on a girl. Any truth to this?"
People need to use some f*cking common sense. And mods need to delete this kind of sh*t on sight.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Hmm that's not a bad way to look on things actually.Francisco d'Anconia said:I've come to accept that these posts just gives us insight into the types of guys we are competing with when sarging. No worries here...![]()
LOL! couldn't have said it better myself.mrRuckus said:Aww isn't that cute? Every message board there's people like you who say the same thing. Repeatedly. As if it's a new observation and you're so clever. What do you want?
guy 1: "man, there's no girl here."
guy 2: "yea."
guy 3: "this place sucks"
And then they come back the same night next week. Every bar. Every week.
I can definitely see your point. Vomit on a girl? lol! :crackup: But seriously, as long as dreamx is around, its never gonna happen. Just ignore it. Its pretty simple.Mr Charisma said:If many people are saying this then perhaps it's time something should be done about these moronic threads. Don't you agree?
I want sensible questions that relate to seduction. Isn't that what this place is about? Do you think a question like this would be tolerated on another forum such as mASF? Course not.
This place used to have thought-provoking posts. Now we're stuck with sh*t like:
"Hey guys, someone told me that it's not a good idea to vomit on a girl. Any truth to this?"
People need to use some f*cking common sense. And mods need to delete this kind of sh*t on sight.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.