antidonjuan
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Is saying "happy birthday" to a pretty girl an AFC move or a warm statement?
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Saying happy birthday: An AFC Move?
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Michele l'Arcangelo
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come on, i mean... seriously?
it doesn't matter if it's DJ or not. it's a nice gesture that everyone can appreciate.
just make sure you find out its her birthday in a non-stalkerish way.
it doesn't matter if it's DJ or not. it's a nice gesture that everyone can appreciate.
just make sure you find out its her birthday in a non-stalkerish way.
MotownMack
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LOL. You're joking, right?
You should not be asking this question at 126 posts, but at least you have the appropriate user name.
No it's not AFC or DJ, it's called basic manners. It could be a decent way to open a conversation if you branch out from there, but by itself it's unlikely to help you or hurt you.
You should not be asking this question at 126 posts, but at least you have the appropriate user name.
No it's not AFC or DJ, it's called basic manners. It could be a decent way to open a conversation if you branch out from there, but by itself it's unlikely to help you or hurt you.
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
Social Calibration
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Pointless question, and I know you're not serious. You're either stupid or just bored.
Deadly_Assassin
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whos got the troll spray?
Happy Birthday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
ARrocket
Master Don Juan
There is NOTHING AFC about saying happy birthday.
It's not saying "Happy Birthday," it's how you say it. Your body language , vocal tone and subcommunication has to be strong and you have to be on your A-game.
You also have to calibrate properly
You can get away with saying "Happy B-day" to a HB 10 or HB 9 and even some HB 8s.
But for HB 7s and lower, I recommend the proper "Happy Birthday." They're not as used to Don Juans approaching them as much as HBs 8 and up.
You also have to calibrate properly
You can get away with saying "Happy B-day" to a HB 10 or HB 9 and even some HB 8s.
But for HB 7s and lower, I recommend the proper "Happy Birthday." They're not as used to Don Juans approaching them as much as HBs 8 and up.
ezily
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It can be AFC. If you do it over facebook or myspace that is lame. If you send a text that is lame. If you send an email that is lame. If you write a message more that happy birthday that is lame.
So the best way to do it is in person. Just be cool and smooth about it. It's fine if you do it this way. Also, don't make it seem like you went out of your way. AND don't buy her flowers or any of that other sh1t.
btw, the reason I'm against the internet thing is because EVERY loser AFC does it. I mean just look at some of the walls of hot girls. You'll see guys posting lame and retarded comments ALL the time. It makes me cringe when I see that stuff.
So the best way to do it is in person. Just be cool and smooth about it. It's fine if you do it this way. Also, don't make it seem like you went out of your way. AND don't buy her flowers or any of that other sh1t.
btw, the reason I'm against the internet thing is because EVERY loser AFC does it. I mean just look at some of the walls of hot girls. You'll see guys posting lame and retarded comments ALL the time. It makes me cringe when I see that stuff.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Michele l'Arcangelo
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hah good one!Max Power said:
Damn!
:crackup:
If you say something to get approval - AFC.
If you say VERY NICE something because someone deserves it - Right.
If you say something to make someone happy but don't really want approval- Right!
Be nice often!
:crackup:
If you say something to get approval - AFC.
If you say VERY NICE something because someone deserves it - Right.
If you say something to make someone happy but don't really want approval- Right!
Be nice often!