antidonjuan
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Is saying "happy birthday" to a pretty girl an AFC move or a warm statement?
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Saying happy birthday: An AFC Move?
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Michele l'Arcangelo
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come on, i mean... seriously?
it doesn't matter if it's DJ or not. it's a nice gesture that everyone can appreciate.
just make sure you find out its her birthday in a non-stalkerish way.
it doesn't matter if it's DJ or not. it's a nice gesture that everyone can appreciate.
just make sure you find out its her birthday in a non-stalkerish way.
MotownMack
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LOL. You're joking, right?
You should not be asking this question at 126 posts, but at least you have the appropriate user name.
No it's not AFC or DJ, it's called basic manners. It could be a decent way to open a conversation if you branch out from there, but by itself it's unlikely to help you or hurt you.
You should not be asking this question at 126 posts, but at least you have the appropriate user name.
No it's not AFC or DJ, it's called basic manners. It could be a decent way to open a conversation if you branch out from there, but by itself it's unlikely to help you or hurt you.
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Social Calibration
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Pointless question, and I know you're not serious. You're either stupid or just bored.
Deadly_Assassin
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whos got the troll spray?
Happy Birthday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
ARrocket
Master Don Juan
There is NOTHING AFC about saying happy birthday.
It's not saying "Happy Birthday," it's how you say it. Your body language , vocal tone and subcommunication has to be strong and you have to be on your A-game.
You also have to calibrate properly
You can get away with saying "Happy B-day" to a HB 10 or HB 9 and even some HB 8s.
But for HB 7s and lower, I recommend the proper "Happy Birthday." They're not as used to Don Juans approaching them as much as HBs 8 and up.
You also have to calibrate properly
You can get away with saying "Happy B-day" to a HB 10 or HB 9 and even some HB 8s.
But for HB 7s and lower, I recommend the proper "Happy Birthday." They're not as used to Don Juans approaching them as much as HBs 8 and up.
ezily
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It can be AFC. If you do it over facebook or myspace that is lame. If you send a text that is lame. If you send an email that is lame. If you write a message more that happy birthday that is lame.
So the best way to do it is in person. Just be cool and smooth about it. It's fine if you do it this way. Also, don't make it seem like you went out of your way. AND don't buy her flowers or any of that other sh1t.
btw, the reason I'm against the internet thing is because EVERY loser AFC does it. I mean just look at some of the walls of hot girls. You'll see guys posting lame and retarded comments ALL the time. It makes me cringe when I see that stuff.
So the best way to do it is in person. Just be cool and smooth about it. It's fine if you do it this way. Also, don't make it seem like you went out of your way. AND don't buy her flowers or any of that other sh1t.
btw, the reason I'm against the internet thing is because EVERY loser AFC does it. I mean just look at some of the walls of hot girls. You'll see guys posting lame and retarded comments ALL the time. It makes me cringe when I see that stuff.
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Michele l'Arcangelo
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hah good one!Max Power said:
Damn!
:crackup:
If you say something to get approval - AFC.
If you say VERY NICE something because someone deserves it - Right.
If you say something to make someone happy but don't really want approval- Right!
Be nice often!
:crackup:
If you say something to get approval - AFC.
If you say VERY NICE something because someone deserves it - Right.
If you say something to make someone happy but don't really want approval- Right!
Be nice often!