"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Rubbing the Vag

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What if I rubbed a girl's ***** through her pants? Would she feel it? Any good way of doing it?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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ANY GOOD WAYS OF RUBBING IT..............lol ya with your penis or tongue

I assume you a newbie........ummm feeling a chic up through her clothes is an essential way of "priming" the area in order for her to consider taking it to the next level.

SPECIFICS-id say kissing her for a bit then make your way down there with your hand WHILE you are kissing her some more.

IF she pulls your hand away........it is usually two reasons:

A) its that time of the month (she is menstrating)

B) DOES NOT want to behave like a slut in public, she might be shy.

You may want to take a break.........then gravitate to repeating the process again after your "break" is over. More emphasis on kissing and less on the Vag stroking.

Now if she is displaying signs of "YEAH BABY" when you stroke the crotch thru her clothes........it may be time to slip under her clothing......again this is tricky as not all women are ready for that.........but if met with no resistance.....insert those fingers and continue the kissing.

hope this helps
 
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COD said:
ANY GOOD WAYS OF RUBBING IT..............lol ya with your penis or tongue

I assume you a newbie........ummm feeling a chic up through her clothes is an essential way of "priming" the area in order for her to consider taking it to the next level.

SPECIFICS-id say kissing her for a bit then make your way down there with your hand WHILE you are kissing her some more.

IF she pulls your hand away........it is usually two reasons:

A) its that time of the month (she is menstrating)

B) DOES NOT want to behave like a slut in public, she might be shy.

You may want to take a break.........then gravitate to repeating the process again after your "break" is over. More emphasis on kissing and less on the Vag stroking.

Now if she is displaying signs of "YEAH BABY" when you stroke the crotch thru her clothes........it may be time to slip under her clothing......again this is tricky as not all women are ready for that.........but if met with no resistance.....insert those fingers and continue the kissing.

hope this helps
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exactly how I pulled it off last night. COD's right. she dropped me off at my car, and we kept talking in her car for a while, then i went in and kissed her on the cheeks, then went in again and started making out, about 4min, then started rubbing her chest, finally over her skirt, she started getting into it, took off her seatbelt and moved more towards me, then moved under her skirt and finally under her panties.

the cops pulled up next to us, so she suggested we move to her place, we both got stuck in traffic but when we finally made it there we were pretty much ripping off each others clothes.

I think the escalation of it was perfect (for me, I'm not good at escalation) but I was reading her body language very well and it was telling me when to move onto the next stage.

ie: I didn't just start groping her breasts, I just grazed them "accidentally" at first.
 
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I had this happen a few weeks ago.

We started making out on my couch, then I worked my way down there. Through her jeans I could tell it was hot and wet, within the next minute she said lets take this over there (pointing to my bed).

The next day she told me she hadn't planned on doing that at all.

The advice given here...works! :yes:
 
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When you are rubbing her without clothes, do not just stick a finger in - never stick it in unless it's wet. so pet and move your hand around, then take 1 finger and move it around the opening up and down.. then that middle finger kinda do the "come here" motion but don't insert it until you are feeling that she is getting really wet.. when you feel she is wet, put the finger in and do the come here hook at a fast speed. then put another finger in and repeat.move them up and down quickly

they will start moaning and bucking i am not really sure how long you want to go for i do it for like 45 secs and stop and either they act like they came or don't I just don't want to jerk them off for longer than that.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I like to go for the passionate kiss, move to erotic kisses on the neck, back to her lips and then move down to her bosom while simultaneously rubbing her thighs sensually, slowly working myself up towards the cooch. Once there I rub it nicely and kiss her lips again with sheer raw passion. At this time I may move in and start rubbing her breasts as they'll be nice and hard by then. Play with those a bit, than I like to tip toe myself down her whole body with light kisses, leading my lips towards her jeans, slowly unbuttoning them, kissing the sides of her thighs so ever gently as if my style was pristine, I'll rub her a little more, kiss her a bit, maybe nibble on her ear lobes . Panties should be pretty damn soaked by then.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Lol ... Sorry kid the kiddie section is closed today
 
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