"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Roosh wrote: women pick bartenders over heart surgeons
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
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It's a perverse society. Tingles, cads and her own disposable income rule. Five odd decades of ceaseless social re-engineering has seen the allure and rewards (top tier puzzy and reverence from the masses) for the responsible civilization builders/innovators gone the way of the dodo. Personally I'm not complaining , I capitalized on it like every other C+ azzhole out there.Scormus said:
Not so good for society though. Come to think of it the closer the West ebbs into fully blown cultural Marxism and the lefts new religion of equaaaaality why the hell would anyone be dumb enough to spend 8 years or whatever it is in medical school when a 6 month bar course can turn over a higher volume of snatch. Not only that but now the surgeon is more than likely shackled to this new breed of "modern woman" anyway. Why bother, where's the incentive?
Enjoy the decline
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You're expecting a women to act logically.... haven't you learned?Scormus said:
Also, someone mentioned "situational" alphas.
At the bar, the bartender is the high status guy, every often. That doctor in the corner sipping his Manhattan? She could give a **** (until the wall arrives, of course).
At the ****tail party at the fancy hotel... it's the heart surgeon (if he's got a modicum of game).
Girls love the guy with status in the moment.
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
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He's not stupid. He's made a decent living out of his "Bang" books and now RoK. He bans anyone on his forum, twitter, or RoK who is outspoken against him (myself included, lol). I think his pickup advice is second to none, but I would take any other broader observations made by him with a grain of salt. He's a career PUA living in Poland.
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I know a Harvard MD (not a heart surgeon, but still a doctor at one of the best hospitals in the country) who is decent-looking, but has no game: he hasn't laid a single woman in the entire time I've known him. Every date he gets (typically from online) ends in LJBF after a meeting or two.
Maybe once he hits 40, and starts going out with desperate 35-year-olds, he'll finally get lucky. But in the 22-30 range, he stands no chance, despite his pedigree. At least not in the San Francisco Bay Area, where girls don't really have to go very far to find a less-nerdy rich guy (not all the Google and Facebook millionaires are socially clueless).
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backbreaker
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Unemployment runs rampant.. no.. better yet lol, the government starts opening up bars and nightclubs because that's the only job that guys are qualified to do lol. brilliant.
Because there are bars everywhere alcoholism and violence runs amok, but THERE ARE NO DOCTORS because no one wants to be a doctor because doctors don't want to get laid it's easier to become a bartender or a bouncer.
Gyms will be everywhere and the cost of demand will drive gym memberships like 500 a month lol. Which most guys can't pay because bartenders are broke
social security and welfare / medicare / medicaid will bring the government to it's knees because these bartending jobs don't' have 401k's. that and the fact that no one has a job that produces enough money to actually PAY taxes, the government will be a shell of itself and will hold no real authority
It will basically show the effects of a society that is ran off a woman's sexual whims.
I'm actually half serious. I think I could pull that off.
My point being simply a man who makes his career decisions off what a woman thinks is sexy, is in fact, not a man.
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
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Don't know if I'd go that far, he's no Brad Pitt but he's probably got 85ish? percent of guys here covered. (no hommus)GS750 said:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-4k-t5cZMC2E/TiOKccgCRAI/AAAAAAAACfU/eni5PMFCs70/s1600/rooshv.jpg
In other words he's not strikingly ugly enough for grown men to be mimicking chickish behaviour by calling him "unattractive" in the first place in my opinion.
Secondly. Game is game is game. There's no differing schools magic the gathering style and 1 more effective for fugly dudes. It's game. Neg a 9 in this sea of supplicating manginas and she tingles regardless.
Scaramouche
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" Roosh wrote: women pick bartenders over heart surgeons
Sounds perverse to me."......No it isn't perverse at all,but to Roosh it is about number and superficial beauty,if that's your bag of fruit then just emulate him!
The Motivation that makes A Man become a Doctor or anything out of the Box whilst subliminally Svexual is really satisfying deep urges within his soul,not everyone is a Womaniser....
The top five or so percent of motivated Men have several outlets...Some of the principal engines that drive them are yes Sex,Money,Power...then you get lesser obsessions can be as banal as spotting Trains,stamps,computers...You are an obsessive take your pick!
Reflect on Hitler,Churchill,Stalin....none of them was svexual...Nor when free to indulge their every perverted whim did they transmute their energies for power into the Svexual Realm!
Objectively I would say his looks are enough to not get rejected outright by most women but not good enough to pull without game and work.
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
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This same BPD is now with some loser with tattoos on the front of his neck and druggie with her 2 kids from different baby daddies she doesn't talk to. The dumb BPD's DO pay for their bad decisions even if they don't realize it, because in their own mind they are always right with their decisions. I would need a druggie too if I was this b!tch.
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I hope so. I've been watching the man closely for over a decade? and for the good he's done for his fellow man, the number of men's eyes he's opened, the burning hatred, abuse and threats he's received from Western orca's and their mangina lap dogs, the failed attempts of lamestream media beatups to making SPLC "hate" lists. Whatever he's made it's not enough.GS750 said:
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so the only crowd that they attract are gold diggers.
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No doubt the guy has earned whatever he's got. It takes a lot of balls to give up a mainsteam career and go out and pave your own way like he did. I don't agree with everything he says but I cannot disagree with you on these points. The fact that he's on the SPLC radar is just asinine.( . )( . ) said:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icmRCixQrx8
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.