"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Roosh V vs Simple Pickup, who would you rather rely on for advice?
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
bukowski_merit
Master Don Juan
The day I'd rather hang out with one of these old snobs, who talk about hypogamy or whatever it's called and analyze everything.... Is the day I'd rather have a bullet in my head than a brain.
Boring old fvcks...
I have fun with women. Simple pick-up has fun with women... Rosh and all the bloggers like him (even those on this board) give me a damn headache whenever I read their words.
not to mention they are so damn creepy that they get banned from countries for being creepsbukowski_merit said:Let's see.... Bitter old man who analyzes too much vs. A bunch of friends just having fun and pretty much trolling women................
The day I'd rather hang out with one of these old snobs, who talk about hypogamy or whatever it's called and analyze everything.... Is the day I'd rather have a bullet in my head than a brain.
Boring old fvcks...
I have fun with women. Simple pick-up has fun with women... Rosh and all the bloggers like him (even those on this board) give me a damn headache whenever I read their words.
also the fact that they are stormfront type racists, seriously.
dap
Senior Don Juan
Edit: watched some more simple pickup. Is it just me or are these video 75% just these guys getting blown out? Entertaining stuff though.
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
He's also a funny dude. I don't necessarily understand all the hate he gets. People here can be many times more cynical than him often enough, especially. He seems to have a good grasp on life.
Never heard of Simple Pickup, though. Probably good stuff, any sharing of information is, in my opinion, a good thing. I read from all types of various authors and compare what I see and apply a mix of materials into my own life, alongside with my own contributions and thoughts. Why debate which is better - why not debate which ones are useful - in which case, both could be useful?
It's like any skill, really. Learn the basic rules then develop on your own from there. Like basketball.
Purefilth
Master Don Juan
True, but its clearly obvious that if they did indeed have a warehouse full of fVcks - they still wouldnt give one.dap said:: watched some more simple pickup. Is it just me or are these video 75% just these guys getting blown out? Entertaining stuff though.
Thats what its all about - go have fun, you enjoy picking up? then get out there and have a laugh.
If you go into it serious, you won't come across as fun, and thats a losing battle. Whom wants to be picked up by a serious mr misery?
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the guy bull****s about his travelsPlutoman said:I honestly enjoy most of Roosh's writing, and he's got solid advice in his books.
He's also a funny dude. I don't necessarily understand all the hate he gets. People here can be many times more cynical than him often enough, especially. He seems to have a good grasp on life.
Never heard of Simple Pickup, though. Probably good stuff, any sharing of information is, in my opinion, a good thing. I read from all types of various authors and compare what I see and apply a mix of materials into my own life, alongside with my own contributions and thoughts. Why debate which is better - why not debate which ones are useful - in which case, both could be useful?
he is full of hate towards women
he gives men excuses to not doing well rather than advice
and he is the biggest troll blogger on the internet
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
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Troll or not, any man/woman/child who pisses off ugly femcvnts more than they already are gets top marks in my book. This was hilarious and the comments that followed all the way through were even better.JackRobin said:and he is the biggest troll blogger on the internet
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again, troll, no pickup advice given at all and *****es about a country sucking rather than the fact he is an ugly **** that has no game( . )( . ) said:Troll or not, any man/woman/child who pisses off ugly femcvnts more than they already are gets top marks in my book. This was hilarious and the comments that followed all the way through were even better.
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
sageproduct
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What most guys don't realize/know/remember/care about is that the SimplePickup guys (except Jason) started out as social misfits and weirdos and went through the PUA journey. For 7 YEARS kong and jesse read PUA material, approached a sh1tload, and learned.
They know what helps and what is bullsh1t. They are the purest voice in a generally scummy industry.
Their youtube videos are just for entertainment and inspiration. Project Go is where they actually teach you. I pay $15/month for it, and I'll gladly pay them for the rest of my life whether I'm using their service or not because they've changed my life.
I hang out on sosuave because 1 as of now SP doesn't really offer anything on relationship management and 2 their forums are filled with tools and scumbags, not to mention they're much less activè
sageproduct
Banned
Seriously?
I'm underwhelmed. Haven't read his advice yet, I'm sure there some solid nuggets there, but man...why subject oneself to such heavy doses of negativity? Him b1tching about how women suck is hardly different from femcvnts b1tching about how much they hate men.
And a book How To Cheat On Your Girlfriend? Fwck that. I've followed SimplePickup's content closely enough to know that their, especially Kong's ideology resembles what I want to embody myself.
sageproduct
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-an UNCUT pickup video. daygame, nightgame, girls w/bfs, girls in groups, etc. they pick a different topic each week to foucs on, and they also break down the pickup and tell you stuff about it
-45 min podcast where they share insights and behind-the-scenes stuff about pickup. this has actually become my favorite part lately. so informative, and hilarious and inspiring. you get a better sense of their personalities and lifestyles and what they've been through.
-10 min video where they answer questions that people post about the previous UNCUT pickup video
About once a month, they do a liveshow online where they answer questions.
I've probably done over 500 approaches total, most likely more...started approaching last March
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.