Roosh V vs Simple Pickup, who would you rather rely on for advice?

[JackRobin]

I pick simple pickup.

Reason?

Vids of them with girls

Vids of them making out with girls

Doing good in places people say are tough to do good in (Southern Cal)

what about you?

 

[Demonpenz]

I would rely on myself to get out and see what works and what doesn't. Muscleman and some others around here I would trust as well.

 

[bukowski_merit]

Let's see.... Bitter old man who analyzes too much vs. A bunch of friends just having fun and pretty much trolling women................

The day I'd rather hang out with one of these old snobs, who talk about hypogamy or whatever it's called and analyze everything.... Is the day I'd rather have a bullet in my head than a brain.

Boring old fvcks...

I have fun with women. Simple pick-up has fun with women... Rosh and all the bloggers like him (even those on this board) give me a damn headache whenever I read their words.

 

[JackRobin]

Let's see.... Bitter old man who analyzes too much vs. A bunch of friends just having fun and pretty much trolling women................

The day I'd rather hang out with one of these old snobs, who talk about hypogamy or whatever it's called and analyze everything.... Is the day I'd rather have a bullet in my head than a brain.

Boring old fvcks...

I have fun with women. Simple pick-up has fun with women... Rosh and all the bloggers like him (even those on this board) give me a damn headache whenever I read their words.

not to mention they are so damn creepy that they get banned from countries for being creeps

also the fact that they are stormfront type racists, seriously.

 

[dap]

Simple pickup is light and funny stuff that is good for ONSs or really early dating/attraction. For LTRs I feel that you need good inner gamer, which requires that you love yourself and know how to be a man. These topics are covered more in Rational Male etc.

Edit: watched some more simple pickup. Is it just me or are these video 75% just these guys getting blown out? Entertaining stuff though.

 

[Plutoman]

I honestly enjoy most of Roosh's writing, and he's got solid advice in his books.

He's also a funny dude. I don't necessarily understand all the hate he gets. People here can be many times more cynical than him often enough, especially. He seems to have a good grasp on life.

Never heard of Simple Pickup, though. Probably good stuff, any sharing of information is, in my opinion, a good thing. I read from all types of various authors and compare what I see and apply a mix of materials into my own life, alongside with my own contributions and thoughts. Why debate which is better - why not debate which ones are useful - in which case, both could be useful?

 

[floydb25]

Personal experience trumps all. Too bad it sucks that you have to go through it to learn, but there is no other way, IMO. You are you; what works for you might not work for others. Only you know what's best for you, or what you did wrong, or how far along you are towards success. Means **** all for anyone else. Too many variables involved, and a lot of **** is random, and no one else is there - inside of you - to know for sure. They don't factor in your personality, character, wit, appearance, and socialble likeability, because they don't know what it is. All that **** matters, and makes a difference.

It's like any skill, really. Learn the basic rules then develop on your own from there. Like basketball.

 

[Purefilth]

: watched some more simple pickup. Is it just me or are these video 75% just these guys getting blown out? Entertaining stuff though.

True, but its clearly obvious that if they did indeed have a warehouse full of fVcks - they still wouldnt give one.

Thats what its all about - go have fun, you enjoy picking up? then get out there and have a laugh.

If you go into it serious, you won't come across as fun, and thats a losing battle. Whom wants to be picked up by a serious mr misery?

 

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Post # 137 made by JackRobin about Roosh. *Yawn* Did this guy fvck your Mrs then kick your dog or something?

 

[JackRobin]

I honestly enjoy most of Roosh's writing, and he's got solid advice in his books.

He's also a funny dude. I don't necessarily understand all the hate he gets. People here can be many times more cynical than him often enough, especially. He seems to have a good grasp on life.

Never heard of Simple Pickup, though. Probably good stuff, any sharing of information is, in my opinion, a good thing. I read from all types of various authors and compare what I see and apply a mix of materials into my own life, alongside with my own contributions and thoughts. Why debate which is better - why not debate which ones are useful - in which case, both could be useful?

the guy bull****s about his travels

he is full of hate towards women

he gives men excuses to not doing well rather than advice

and he is the biggest troll blogger on the internet

 

[TDH]

I like simple pick up they'll talk to any chick anytime anywhere with any criteria they have good inner game too its about being a boss and being u to the extreme and not giving a **** with that said I know nothing about Roosh sn watch the barney stinson simple pick up lol

 

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and he is the biggest troll blogger on the internet

Troll or not, any man/woman/child who pisses off ugly femcvnts more than they already are gets top marks in my book. This was hilarious and the comments that followed all the way through were even better.

 

[alphamailman]

manwh0re

 

[saturnalia]

they both suck

 

[JackRobin]

Troll or not, any man/woman/child who pisses off ugly femcvnts more than they already are gets top marks in my book. This was hilarious and the comments that followed all the way through were even better.

again, troll, no pickup advice given at all and *****es about a country sucking rather than the fact he is an ugly **** that has no game

 

[sageproduct]

SimplePickup, but not for the reasons OP stated. Anyone can make some videos, and success alone does not make a good teacher.

What most guys don't realize/know/remember/care about is that the SimplePickup guys (except Jason) started out as social misfits and weirdos and went through the PUA journey. For 7 YEARS kong and jesse read PUA material, approached a sh1tload, and learned.

They know what helps and what is bullsh1t. They are the purest voice in a generally scummy industry.

Their youtube videos are just for entertainment and inspiration. Project Go is where they actually teach you. I pay $15/month for it, and I'll gladly pay them for the rest of my life whether I'm using their service or not because they've changed my life.

I hang out on sosuave because 1 as of now SP doesn't really offer anything on relationship management and 2 their forums are filled with tools and scumbags, not to mention they're much less activè

 

[JackRobin]

not to mention one is asian and the other is Indian, they did not let their race hold them back

 

[sageproduct]

Just checked out roosh's blog...

Seriously?

I'm underwhelmed. Haven't read his advice yet, I'm sure there some solid nuggets there, but man...why subject oneself to such heavy doses of negativity? Him b1tching about how women suck is hardly different from femcvnts b1tching about how much they hate men.

And a book How To Cheat On Your Girlfriend? Fwck that. I've followed SimplePickup's content closely enough to know that their, especially Kong's ideology resembles what I want to embody myself.

 

[TDH]

Sage for the 15 a month what type of stuff do u learn from them want to see if its worth it and just curious how many aprroaches have u done

 

[sageproduct]

For $15/month you get the following on a weekly basis:
-an UNCUT pickup video. daygame, nightgame, girls w/bfs, girls in groups, etc. they pick a different topic each week to foucs on, and they also break down the pickup and tell you stuff about it
-45 min podcast where they share insights and behind-the-scenes stuff about pickup. this has actually become my favorite part lately. so informative, and hilarious and inspiring. you get a better sense of their personalities and lifestyles and what they've been through.
-10 min video where they answer questions that people post about the previous UNCUT pickup video

About once a month, they do a liveshow online where they answer questions.

I've probably done over 500 approaches total, most likely more...started approaching last March