"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Roosh V vs Simple Pickup, who would you rather rely on for advice?
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
bukowski_merit
Master Don Juan
The day I'd rather hang out with one of these old snobs, who talk about hypogamy or whatever it's called and analyze everything.... Is the day I'd rather have a bullet in my head than a brain.
Boring old fvcks...
I have fun with women. Simple pick-up has fun with women... Rosh and all the bloggers like him (even those on this board) give me a damn headache whenever I read their words.
not to mention they are so damn creepy that they get banned from countries for being creepsbukowski_merit said:Let's see.... Bitter old man who analyzes too much vs. A bunch of friends just having fun and pretty much trolling women................
The day I'd rather hang out with one of these old snobs, who talk about hypogamy or whatever it's called and analyze everything.... Is the day I'd rather have a bullet in my head than a brain.
Boring old fvcks...
I have fun with women. Simple pick-up has fun with women... Rosh and all the bloggers like him (even those on this board) give me a damn headache whenever I read their words.
also the fact that they are stormfront type racists, seriously.
dap
Senior Don Juan
Edit: watched some more simple pickup. Is it just me or are these video 75% just these guys getting blown out? Entertaining stuff though.
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
He's also a funny dude. I don't necessarily understand all the hate he gets. People here can be many times more cynical than him often enough, especially. He seems to have a good grasp on life.
Never heard of Simple Pickup, though. Probably good stuff, any sharing of information is, in my opinion, a good thing. I read from all types of various authors and compare what I see and apply a mix of materials into my own life, alongside with my own contributions and thoughts. Why debate which is better - why not debate which ones are useful - in which case, both could be useful?
It's like any skill, really. Learn the basic rules then develop on your own from there. Like basketball.
Purefilth
Master Don Juan
True, but its clearly obvious that if they did indeed have a warehouse full of fVcks - they still wouldnt give one.dap said:: watched some more simple pickup. Is it just me or are these video 75% just these guys getting blown out? Entertaining stuff though.
Thats what its all about - go have fun, you enjoy picking up? then get out there and have a laugh.
If you go into it serious, you won't come across as fun, and thats a losing battle. Whom wants to be picked up by a serious mr misery?
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the guy bull****s about his travelsPlutoman said:I honestly enjoy most of Roosh's writing, and he's got solid advice in his books.
He's also a funny dude. I don't necessarily understand all the hate he gets. People here can be many times more cynical than him often enough, especially. He seems to have a good grasp on life.
Never heard of Simple Pickup, though. Probably good stuff, any sharing of information is, in my opinion, a good thing. I read from all types of various authors and compare what I see and apply a mix of materials into my own life, alongside with my own contributions and thoughts. Why debate which is better - why not debate which ones are useful - in which case, both could be useful?
he is full of hate towards women
he gives men excuses to not doing well rather than advice
and he is the biggest troll blogger on the internet
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
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Troll or not, any man/woman/child who pisses off ugly femcvnts more than they already are gets top marks in my book. This was hilarious and the comments that followed all the way through were even better.JackRobin said:and he is the biggest troll blogger on the internet
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again, troll, no pickup advice given at all and *****es about a country sucking rather than the fact he is an ugly **** that has no game( . )( . ) said:Troll or not, any man/woman/child who pisses off ugly femcvnts more than they already are gets top marks in my book. This was hilarious and the comments that followed all the way through were even better.
“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”
Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.
I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.
Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules. Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.
sageproduct
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What most guys don't realize/know/remember/care about is that the SimplePickup guys (except Jason) started out as social misfits and weirdos and went through the PUA journey. For 7 YEARS kong and jesse read PUA material, approached a sh1tload, and learned.
They know what helps and what is bullsh1t. They are the purest voice in a generally scummy industry.
Their youtube videos are just for entertainment and inspiration. Project Go is where they actually teach you. I pay $15/month for it, and I'll gladly pay them for the rest of my life whether I'm using their service or not because they've changed my life.
I hang out on sosuave because 1 as of now SP doesn't really offer anything on relationship management and 2 their forums are filled with tools and scumbags, not to mention they're much less activè
sageproduct
Banned
Seriously?
I'm underwhelmed. Haven't read his advice yet, I'm sure there some solid nuggets there, but man...why subject oneself to such heavy doses of negativity? Him b1tching about how women suck is hardly different from femcvnts b1tching about how much they hate men.
And a book How To Cheat On Your Girlfriend? Fwck that. I've followed SimplePickup's content closely enough to know that their, especially Kong's ideology resembles what I want to embody myself.
sageproduct
Banned
-an UNCUT pickup video. daygame, nightgame, girls w/bfs, girls in groups, etc. they pick a different topic each week to foucs on, and they also break down the pickup and tell you stuff about it
-45 min podcast where they share insights and behind-the-scenes stuff about pickup. this has actually become my favorite part lately. so informative, and hilarious and inspiring. you get a better sense of their personalities and lifestyles and what they've been through.
-10 min video where they answer questions that people post about the previous UNCUT pickup video
About once a month, they do a liveshow online where they answer questions.
I've probably done over 500 approaches total, most likely more...started approaching last March
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.