"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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I have a question about tomassis book maybe some of you know the answer.
He said its better to give hints about your life than to just tell her directly. For example saying that your long hours of studying are making you tired instead of saying that you are becoming a doctor (because it will appeal like you are trying to impress her). But how should i give breadcrumbs if she asks direct questions like: whats your job? what are your goals? What is the correct answer for this
 

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"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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pivot quickly and ask a quick rapid fire question back, i suppose.
 

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What are your goals?
To have a successful and happy life…
How are you going to do that?
My future hasn’t happened yet, care to join in for awhile? I’m currently taking applications …
Or if she’s overly persistent …
What is this an fbi interrogation? smiling - I didn’t do it…

Then switch the topic …
 

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"So what do you do?"
"Oh, a little of this, a little of that."
"Oh, like an artist?"
"Umm, yeah...I'm an artist."

This was how the woman in Idiocracy answered this question. She was actually a prostitute.
 

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I usually tell them i sell hotdogs on roadside works everytiem
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Or you could just tell her what you do for a living and open up a world of conversation with that information. Sometimes we overthink things and manipulate conversations unnecessarily.
 
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Or you could just tell her what you do for a living and open up a world of conversation with that information. Sometimes we overthink things and manipulate conversations unnecessarily.
I've crafted what I do into different messaging dependent on who I am talking to. For women, it's putting it in a way to create innuendos
 

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The key is not to automatically volunteer information; don't have diarrhea of the mouth. Let the woman talk and let her talk about herself. However, if she asks a direct question, you give information that answers that question, but you give the least amount possible. The reason for this is that mystery helps create sexual tension assuming she is attracted to you. Volunteering little information, but enough to keep a lively conversation going, is an art in itself.

HOW you do this is just as important as what you are saying. Make direct eye contact, smile a bit, and keep it interesting. Never ramble (especially on a 1st or even 2nd date) and always turn the conversation back to her when you finish unless she is genuinely interested and keeps asking questions. This is not a bad thing.
 

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I'm an engineer with a great job and that's fvcking impressive, why won't I say I'm an engineer who works as a contractor for the department of defense DOD?
Your job is boring and dries up the pusssy. If you talk about stuff other than your job, you have a better chance of getting the pusssy wet.
 

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I have a question about tomassis book maybe some of you know the answer.
He said its better to give hints about your life than to just tell her directly. For example saying that your long hours of studying are making you tired instead of saying that you are becoming a doctor (because it will appeal like you are trying to impress her). But how should i give breadcrumbs if she asks direct questions like: whats your job? what are your goals? What is the correct answer for this
I think it is good advice - but the sort of thing you don't have to take 100% dogmatically.

Like if she asks you a direct question - I'd say you can answer it.

IMO -

Alluding to things - in a very non obvious way (basically a vibe like you don't care enough to try and impress/ describe yourself )
can be bait to get her to ask you a question.

Then - for the question answer I'd have a GOOD but short answer.

IMO - the goofy answers to direct questions is kind of played out/ button pushing game.

I'd say just answer, but don't over invest in the answer.


Example :

I'll be chatting with a girl in daygame. Then if she asks what I am up to say "just finished a work thing" NOT " OH I did this work thign that was this and that and this and that" ( needy )

Then if she asks what I do I'll say "sales". She'll normally ask what kind and I'll say
"mostly real estate" and leave it at that. So I don't totally evade but don't over invest.

Basically the underlying principle of this is not qualifying yourself - if you give a long explained answer it can sound less secure.

Like - my multimillionaire mentor ( a real person he was a judge in a contest, not some online bs guru) if people ask what he does he won't give them a 5 minute pitch basically seeling himself. He'd probably say something like " oh a bit of consulting and investing" ( he has started and sold several businesses and is part of a prestigious investment group) - from the confidence and assuredness in his answer though - you could tell he is legit/ knows his stuff
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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I have a question about tomassis book maybe some of you know the answer.
He said its better to give hints about your life than to just tell her directly. For example saying that your long hours of studying are making you tired instead of saying that you are becoming a doctor (because it will appeal like you are trying to impress her). But how should i give breadcrumbs if she asks direct questions like: whats your job? what are your goals? What is the correct answer for this
My mate is a monk from Asia. When you ask questions he gives a question or makes vague statements. Do the same. Seed intrigue. Be bold.

RSD got hate but they're spot on for free association. You want to be just having witty or clever one liners. How? Experience. Field test everything. Go out. RSD Alex once said it doesn't matter the moves you make. It matters you are a man and you make moves. You can always calibrate after the fact.

Most guys tell the game. The game isn't logical or rational. It's funny. It's proactive. Spike her intrigue and emotions. Don't ask questions. Make statements. Tate is top g. He doesn't simp or pander. He says bold things. I saw him once rage over sparkling water. It was hilarious. Most importantly, have conviction.

Op your problem is that this is all mental masturbation until you go out. Your sperging out. Game isn't to logic her soaking wet. Make her feel something before you put it in.
 
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I think it is good advice - but the sort of thing you don't have to take 100% dogmatically.

Like if she asks you a direct question - I'd say you can answer it.

IMO -

Alluding to things - in a very non obvious way (basically a vibe like you don't care enough to try and impress/ describe yourself )
can be bait to get her to ask you a question.

Then - for the question answer I'd have a GOOD but short answer.

IMO - the goofy answers to direct questions is kind of played out/ button pushing game.

I'd say just answer, but don't over invest in the answer.


Example :

I'll be chatting with a girl in daygame. Then if she asks what I am up to say "just finished a work thing" NOT " OH I did this work thign that was this and that and this and that" ( needy )

Then if she asks what I do I'll say "sales". She'll normally ask what kind and I'll say
"mostly real estate" and leave it at that. So I don't totally evade but don't over invest.

Basically the underlying principle of this is not qualifying yourself - if you give a long explained answer it can sound less secure.

Like - my multimillionaire mentor ( a real person he was a judge in a contest, not some online bs guru) if people ask what he does he won't give them a 5 minute pitch basically seeling himself. He'd probably say something like " oh a bit of consulting and investing" ( he has started and sold several businesses and is part of a prestigious investment group) - from the confidence and assuredness in his answer though - you could tell he is legit/ knows his stuff
I get what you are saying, but for her to continue to ask questions after you just say ‘sales’ means she is already invested in you. You can’t really compare a woman’s response the same as you would to your mentor.

Being vague and aloof doesnt always work especially in the initial conversations. If she has lukewarm interest as most would, they leave it as is. I’m not saying to be a dancing monkey, but you need to navigate the conversationto have her asking more. By being that aloof, you only stall the conversation which is the opposite of what you want to do during first approach
 
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