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Agree completely. I don't think random women asking guys to buy them drinks at bars/clubs is still a thing in 2020.I turned 21 in 2004 and went to bars plenty of times over the years until COVID hit in March 2020. Randomly, at a bar, I recall very few instances of this happening over the years. If it happened, it happened no more than 2 times. The number of drinks that I have purchased for women that I randomly met while at bars over the years is nearly 0.
I sense that buying drinks for women at bars is the kind of thing that was more common from the 1980s-early 2000s. I think it was dying out by 2004 when I started. I could be wrong though. Maybe I didn't go to the right kinds of bars. I went to some fashionable bars within 2 metros in the Top 15 in population in the United States.
Since COVID has really devastated bar pickup in 2020, I suggest throwing events in 2020 out of the equation. In 2010-2019, this wasn't happening too much.Agree completely. I don't think random women asking guys to buy them drinks at bars/clubs is still a thing in 2020.
After a few minutes of conversation in a bar, a woman might hint to some degree that she expects a man to buy a drink. It is also possible that a man after a few minutes of conversation might buy a woman a drink to keep the conversation going. From 2010 onwards, I don't think men were doing this much. Men over 30 might do it a little bit more. In 2010 and later, women got more of their free drinks at bars from dates sourced by swipe apps (starting in like 2012-13) or dating websites (the very early 2010s).Even in early 2000s, I don't think I was ever approached and asked to buy her a drink. If you started talking to a chick, it was understood that YOU might offer to buy her one while you are getting another for yourself. But that was later in the conversation, not initially.
I can't imagine this happening in 2019.A random guy cold approaching with, "Hi can I buy you a drink?" (in 2020) would seem really outdated and scream "old guy." My buddy did this in 2019, and I cringed (enough) for all three of us lol.
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Thanks for recognizing a great post.Great post. Really lays out how the dating market and landscape has changed over the decades.
What are your thoughts on the dating market post-Covid? Swipe apps still king?
I have had mostly bad experiences on swipe apps. I have no major issues getting dates on swipe apps. However, I have had issues getting something meaningful out of swipe apps. My experience on swipe apps has been too many dates where there was no sex, no future in-person interactions, and a disappearance of money from my wallet in the form of buying drinks. I'm not cool with that. I'm not on apps due to that.I have always been able to find a steady flow of poon from swipe apps, so online has always worked well for me. Unfortunate side effect is it makes me lazy to do cold approach.
Some might be fearing getting COVID. If they are fearing getting COVID, they should retreat into their prison lite experience and not waste time. However, there is a high probability that they are into getting the validation.Post-Covid, and particularly in the past few months, I have seen a massive reduction of available and interested females on online swipe apps. The females that I do connect with are almost all aloof and non-committal/indifferent to meet ups. They mostly appear to want to collect online orbiters. I can still get meet-ups and bangs semi-regularly, but the difference in effort I have to exert now as opposed to 7 months ago is truly shocking. I have also had to drop my standards and bang women that I usually wouldn't look twice at.
I can buy the idea that it is getting worse. Thirst levels were pretty bad prior to COVID. The real pandemic is not some respiratory virus originating in China. The real pandemic is male thirst.My only theory is that supply and demand has become grossly imbalanced online recently. A large number of women appear to have exited the dating market, while simultaneously a huge number of men have entered the dating market and it has apparently pushed thirst levels through the roof.
It is entirely possible that my mindset has not been correct in dealing with swipe apps and that might have contributed to some of my issues with them. Even ignoring that, it's not an ideal venue for a lot of men, and my own personal attitudes/desires and other factors might contribute to why it hasn't been best for me. Over the course of my life, I've never been tremendously excited about shorter term sexual arrangements. I have preferred longer term things (6 months - 2 years). With that said though, my lifetime notch count is higher than 90 something percent of men. Most men have sex with less than ~7 women lifetime.If you don't mind me saying, I feel that you approach Swipe Apps with the wrong mindset. I don't date women on swipe apps (that's girlfriend privilege in my books, and my time is too precious). It's either straight to my place for a drink, or meet at cafe or bar near my place for 1 drink and back to my place. I always attempt to bang on the first date. Once you achieve the bang then the ball is largely in your court. Depending on how I feel post-bang, I will either gradually ghost her, or plate her for a few more rounds. I don't usually retain plates because I'm fairly black and white. If I like a girl enough to want to regularly bang her, then a relationship will usually develop.
COVID can provide a convenient excuse for first date meeting at my place. I will say something along the lines of "I don't want to risk getting Covid in a cafe or bar, let's meet at my place for drinks on my balcony."
I absolutely refuse to spend money on women unless we are already banging. She's lucky to get a single c0cktail or a cup of coffee, and when I do that I feel like I have already over-invested and she is getting something for free. I am fully aware that the modern woman is a time parasite and will take your energy/cash without rewarding you with sex. I rebel against this.