"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Relationship: HELP, I'm an emotional wreck!

Mikeman!

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shyguy32, who are you to tell me what I felt? You're not me.

I wish I didn't love her at this point honestly because I'm going through hell right now...I can't eat, I can't sleep, and even when I try to keep myself busy I still can't stop thinking about what happened...it's torture!

and if I do email her again, it will be in a month or so, asking how shes doing and allude to the fact that I have other women in my life now and have moved on.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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DJDamage

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Originally posted by Mikeman!
if I do email her again, it will be in a month or so, asking how shes doing and allude to the fact that I have other women in my life now and have moved on.
You sound like a junkie who don't know when to call it quits.

Just like any addiction you got to stop cold turkey. You will suffer but each day its going to be better.

Never again should you cross paths with this woman because it will bring you back to square 1.

End it move on with your life and forget about her. Time helps heal all wounds.

DjDamage
 

shyguy32

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Mike...I've been there buddy...talk to some chick on the phone for awhile and you start to feel something you think is love. When in reality it's infatuation and the idea of being with her. You can't be in love with someone you don't know. You might have know things about her, but you didn't know her.

It's not a slap in your face I promise you, it's just the facts.
 

Mikeman!

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Update(for those who are interested):

Like some have said here, if I DID want this to work out, the best thing would be for me to leave her alone...I did that and 2 days after Valentine's(today), she's now sent me a short e-mail via phone saying she's thinking about me and hopes I'm ok.

Now in the meantime I have been talking to two other girls and I have one of them who wants to sleep with me(although I'm not too interested in these girls, only 7's). Feels good to have the ball in my court, I can actually go without thinking about her every 1/2 hour now knowing that she's tried to get ahold of me.

I'm not sure exactly what is going through her head right now...If I still want to work things out with her, not quite sure how I need to handle her from here on out...
 

MacAvoy

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Originally posted by Mikeman!
Update(for those who are interested):
Feels good to have the ball in my court, I can actually go without thinking about her every 1/2 hour now knowing that she's tried to get ahold of me.
WOW your making progess, you can live almost 30 minutes of your life w/out her. I think this guy should be the AFC poster child. Honestly I can't recall anyone being more AFC than him. Lets start a poll.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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