"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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really shy, hot, younger chick, who wants an AFC???

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Vypros said:
LOL @ you calling HIM the AFC when he's obviously stealing your girl
:confused: obviously, he was talking to her before i was, and obviously i was the one trying to steal "his girl".
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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What I actually meant by taking charge was that you should lead things toward a more exciting, seductive experience instead of just doing boring chit chat in her room. Ie, take her and actually go somewhere or do something. Even watching a movie together (during which you make sure to kino) is an activity; just hanging around while the television is turned on is not an activity.


saturday night when i saw her I called her on her bs. she got kind of embarassed and didnt say anything about it. I told her roommate that girls are a dime a dozen and that i didnt care. Its not like i was lying.
i'd be curious to know more specifically what you said, but it sounds like you probably did a pretty good job. It might not be enough to turn her around, but the proper attitude should be, Get with the program, or leave me alone
 

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jamescr73 said:
:confused: obviously, he was talking to her before i was, and obviously i was the one trying to steal "his girl".
Hey, you don't have to prove anything to ME, chief. Just make sure you read the rest of that post.
 

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just found out that shes a virgin. not that shes religious or anything, shes fairly wild. really threw me for a loop, cause the first night we were hanging out talking and stuff, we talked about some racy stuff and she knew what was going on. any ideas?
 

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jamescr73 said:
.... Chicks lately have been a dime a dozen.
And yet --- you're not washing stinky stuff off your wiener. Lol. Stop bragging about what you imagine could have happened and get your head right.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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jamescr73 said:
This girl is almost 21, im 27. Shes really shy, and probably fairly unexperienced. I seriously have no experience with a chick in this situation. Id give her a solid HB8.5.
Oh, and while i was sitting there they were texting each other and giggling. One of the messages from the roommate said "I didnt realize how cute he is" or something like that.
Any ideas how to pull her from AFC boy?
Wait, I thought looks didn't matter!

Face it, she's young and he's cuter than you.

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Obsidian said:
heresy. No girl wants an AFC.
Most girls think they want (and SAY they want) an AFC (someone who cares about their feelings and will do whatever the hell they say), but thats not actually what they want.
 
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jamescr73 said:
just found out that shes a virgin. not that shes religious or anything, shes fairly wild. really threw me for a loop, cause the first night we were hanging out talking and stuff, we talked about some racy stuff and she knew what was going on. any ideas?
Only hors talk "racy" - quit being a fool and believing what hors say!!!!
 

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she didnt tell me she was a virgin. My roommate is friends with one of her roommates and he told me thats what he heard.

BTW i look better than the other guy. I work out 5 days a week. Im 6'2" and 200 lbs. Hes about 5'8", slightly balding with glasses. Hes a nerd. Maybe hes hung like a donkey.

Oh, and i banged her roommate on monday. girls are a nickel a dozen.
 
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