“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
Quest to get a gf or get laid by Feb 32nd, 2039.
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I've discounted why it may not work on plentyoffish and lavalife, but of course, the profile has to convey some personality with a less than hot pic, and an email that shows some connection would probably work well too.Roulette said:
Match.com is going to also be tried on a tip from lookbetteronline (supscription has to be purchased), and of course I'm still going to play with various profiles until I find one that I'm most comfortable and then see how that works.
If all else fails then I go for refunds on net2bed and partial refund on lookbetteronline, but you have to at least try and see what happens, so just because I discounted something doesn't mean I've dismissed it - after all I did meet some people online before - but I dont know if I can beat the game to the extent of being popular online without having a stud looking photo with muscles.
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Right now it's August 7th and I've checked my 'match.com' inbox (without subscription yet) to find two emails. The people from lookbetteronline said if I dont get 15 hits I get my money back. I've had four hits on my profile since it was put up on Thursday/Friday, August 2/3rd so far and two emails.
Definately not a very popular profile, but I'm keeping my end of the bargain by keeping it up there (it's free anyway) for about a week to see if I get 15 hits/emails, failing which, I can ask for a partial refund. This is the verbal agreement with lookbetteronline.
So far, I'm 11 hits, and 13 emails behind.....but if I do get the amount of hits they minimally guaranteed I'd get, then I wont be claiming any refund.
My guestimation is still my body shape sucks, and pics either have to convey muscles and strength and look studly, or they have to convey warmth or that sort of homely feeling when they are viewed to the reader. It's sort of a system that I think is doomed to fail with me but I'm obligated to give this the benefit of the doubt ensure this experiment gets a fair hearing.
I was looking for 'muscleman's posts, I thought he posted something about an online experiment he did putting up pics after he was ripped and has met a tonne of women and has got lots of attention being online.....maybe someone else posted it but I cant seem to find it on here. It would confirm the beliefs that one has to work on some core non-negotiable properties as no repackaging in the world is going to fix that - thus an investment with a personal trainer and gym program where you have a good frame and ripped muscles you are proud to display will likely go allot further than going with 'lookbetteronline'.
I'm going to get my muscles in shape later and become ripped - that's going to be part of a new agenda later on. Once I have a body transformation, I'm going to take photographs without a shirt and different poses on showing my new ripped body - even if it takes a year to get there - and see what difference of response that I get. I've read testimonies of lots of people here and in another board where they sucked with women, but when they improved their body, they got more attention. I've overlooked the most OBVIOUS concept of improvement and that's investing in my own physical body to build muscles - I've long overestimated my handsome face and eyes - but without a body to back it up - it doesn't cut the mustard. Maybe that's what I'll just do later and I'll probably feel better about myself once I'm a walking studly hulk that can life a car with one of my hands (ok, that's an exaggeration, but I'm sure I'll at least feel good).
Ok, that's the next action plan if the other internet experiments (dating sites, photographs, profiles), etc... have failed to produce and adequate response.
Now - if you dont have muscles or are able to convey your personality in photograph - STAY AWAY from lookbetteronline - it wont dramatically or even modestly improve your game the way I have seen it so far. These elements are non-negotiable properties and the best photographer in the world isn't going to make a better photograph if you cant bring yourself out in film or have a studly appearance to start with.
Later tonight, I'm going to delete all my posts in the forum of plentyoffish, it may seem to attract negative attention to myself and further cripple my chances of meeting someone.
I still think that unless you have the good to begin with, packaging may help, but wont produce any dramatic results as that site claims it would .... let's see how this goes.
Definately not a very popular profile, but I'm keeping my end of the bargain by keeping it up there (it's free anyway) for about a week to see if I get 15 hits/emails, failing which, I can ask for a partial refund. This is the verbal agreement with lookbetteronline.
So far, I'm 11 hits, and 13 emails behind.....but if I do get the amount of hits they minimally guaranteed I'd get, then I wont be claiming any refund.
My guestimation is still my body shape sucks, and pics either have to convey muscles and strength and look studly, or they have to convey warmth or that sort of homely feeling when they are viewed to the reader. It's sort of a system that I think is doomed to fail with me but I'm obligated to give this the benefit of the doubt ensure this experiment gets a fair hearing.
I was looking for 'muscleman's posts, I thought he posted something about an online experiment he did putting up pics after he was ripped and has met a tonne of women and has got lots of attention being online.....maybe someone else posted it but I cant seem to find it on here. It would confirm the beliefs that one has to work on some core non-negotiable properties as no repackaging in the world is going to fix that - thus an investment with a personal trainer and gym program where you have a good frame and ripped muscles you are proud to display will likely go allot further than going with 'lookbetteronline'.
I'm going to get my muscles in shape later and become ripped - that's going to be part of a new agenda later on. Once I have a body transformation, I'm going to take photographs without a shirt and different poses on showing my new ripped body - even if it takes a year to get there - and see what difference of response that I get. I've read testimonies of lots of people here and in another board where they sucked with women, but when they improved their body, they got more attention. I've overlooked the most OBVIOUS concept of improvement and that's investing in my own physical body to build muscles - I've long overestimated my handsome face and eyes - but without a body to back it up - it doesn't cut the mustard. Maybe that's what I'll just do later and I'll probably feel better about myself once I'm a walking studly hulk that can life a car with one of my hands (ok, that's an exaggeration, but I'm sure I'll at least feel good).
Ok, that's the next action plan if the other internet experiments (dating sites, photographs, profiles), etc... have failed to produce and adequate response.
Now - if you dont have muscles or are able to convey your personality in photograph - STAY AWAY from lookbetteronline - it wont dramatically or even modestly improve your game the way I have seen it so far. These elements are non-negotiable properties and the best photographer in the world isn't going to make a better photograph if you cant bring yourself out in film or have a studly appearance to start with.
Later tonight, I'm going to delete all my posts in the forum of plentyoffish, it may seem to attract negative attention to myself and further cripple my chances of meeting someone.
I still think that unless you have the good to begin with, packaging may help, but wont produce any dramatic results as that site claims it would .... let's see how this goes.
BannedGod
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failure to comply to my advice will induce that you are a naughty troll
I will give this advice in easy to follow steps
Step 1: Turn off the computer
Step 2: Unplug said computer
Step 3: Put said computer in a box, lock it and throw away the key
Step 4: Hide the box in your backyard
Step 5: Cement the box
Step 6: Go out in the outside world (you know the place where there is a bright shiny yellow ball?)
Step 7: Go to random fat chick
Step 8: Say "hi", then "How are you" then "I'm Luke McTrolly" then start a conversation. However, DO NOT ATTRACT HER UNDER YOUR BRIDGE!
Step 9: Rinse and repeat with loads of fat chicks
Step 10: Once you are comfortable (after around 574 fat chicks), go for a hotter one
Step 11: Repeat step 8-9-10 until you can go to HB8 or higher without problem
Voila!
Oh and please stop trolling it's getting old
To mods: ban this troll? kthxbai
I will give this advice in easy to follow steps
Step 1: Turn off the computer
Step 2: Unplug said computer
Step 3: Put said computer in a box, lock it and throw away the key
Step 4: Hide the box in your backyard
Step 5: Cement the box
Step 6: Go out in the outside world (you know the place where there is a bright shiny yellow ball?)
Step 7: Go to random fat chick
Step 8: Say "hi", then "How are you" then "I'm Luke McTrolly" then start a conversation. However, DO NOT ATTRACT HER UNDER YOUR BRIDGE!
Step 9: Rinse and repeat with loads of fat chicks
Step 10: Once you are comfortable (after around 574 fat chicks), go for a hotter one
Step 11: Repeat step 8-9-10 until you can go to HB8 or higher without problem
Voila!
Oh and please stop trolling it's getting old
To mods: ban this troll? kthxbai
Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.
Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.
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Thanks guys for your really constructive advice. Why not just advise me to hire a fvcking hooker to get laid while we are at it - at least I can do hot babes without worrying about any game? Great support!
Thing is I'm not looking for advice that's not complimentary to the goals at hand - which is right now online gaming. I'm studying net2bed-net2web and at least I'm trying things here and seeing if they work for me or not. At least I trying something new and giving it a fair try - if I'm not being fair - then call me up on it.
Thus if anyone think I'm trolling, then dont make sh1t replies to my thread - because in reality you become trollers and bend to your own perception of a troll, thus at the end of the day the only way to deal with that is to ignore me, or to call me up on something I said where I'm not being consistent on what I'm doing. But I'm doing something and reporting the results - we shall know soon if net2bed really works, or if lookbetteronline really works.
Thing is I'm not looking for advice that's not complimentary to the goals at hand - which is right now online gaming. I'm studying net2bed-net2web and at least I'm trying things here and seeing if they work for me or not. At least I trying something new and giving it a fair try - if I'm not being fair - then call me up on it.
Thus if anyone think I'm trolling, then dont make sh1t replies to my thread - because in reality you become trollers and bend to your own perception of a troll, thus at the end of the day the only way to deal with that is to ignore me, or to call me up on something I said where I'm not being consistent on what I'm doing. But I'm doing something and reporting the results - we shall know soon if net2bed really works, or if lookbetteronline really works.
I.A.F.Y.B.
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I havn't been reading all the posts but..
Luke Skywalker, have you gotten a girlfriend yet or laid yet?
Luke Skywalker, have you gotten a girlfriend yet or laid yet?
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Went out today with my mom downtown to give out some tracts, so my mom was my wing-lady. While walking downtown I noticed some girls were actually looking at me. I would stare at them back but usually I would avert my gaze with them really fast for fear of rejection that they would avert their gaze at me first.
My mom was at the clothing store with me - Sears - there were mannequins around, and I was thinking of groping one of them, and looked around to see if anyone was looking at me. All the time I would see someone around the store so I didn't grope them.....but finally, it seemed no one was around, I was getting ready to grope one right up her thing and my mom came out all of a sudden and said we had to go. My mom then asked me if I liked the manniquein butts and I asked her "did you stare me away because you were worried I was going to grope one", and she said, the devil works on idle minds and she thought I was getting bored or something, so we left and continued walking.
I saw some real girls around all over the place as it was downtown, and I noticed more eye contact after that incident as opposed to before as my mind was now bent on potentially groping any random girl on site but I restrained the idea out.
I walked up to this girl, for example waiting in line, and I was thinking of groping her, but let the thought die because I know it's trouble - after all who wants to get slapped, or get a criminal record, or have a girl freak out on you? I'm always thinking of groping people. This morning, I walked up to an Indian girl from behind with her a$$ facing me and I was walking full speed toward her and in my mind I was going to grope really good - but she looked back while I was approaching and I smiled at her and walked to the check-out - she didn't smile back and thus I didn't get any attention validation from her, oh well.
I wonder what type of vibes I give off people when I'm horney and want to grope someone - even if I dont actually do it and it's just in my mind. I've never groped any girl in my life - it's against the standard of this home and against the standards of society as a whole (meaning there is a legal risk if a girl gets pissed) Anyway....guess I'm just have the hungry eyes syndrome.
My mom was at the clothing store with me - Sears - there were mannequins around, and I was thinking of groping one of them, and looked around to see if anyone was looking at me. All the time I would see someone around the store so I didn't grope them.....but finally, it seemed no one was around, I was getting ready to grope one right up her thing and my mom came out all of a sudden and said we had to go. My mom then asked me if I liked the manniquein butts and I asked her "did you stare me away because you were worried I was going to grope one", and she said, the devil works on idle minds and she thought I was getting bored or something, so we left and continued walking.
I saw some real girls around all over the place as it was downtown, and I noticed more eye contact after that incident as opposed to before as my mind was now bent on potentially groping any random girl on site but I restrained the idea out.
I walked up to this girl, for example waiting in line, and I was thinking of groping her, but let the thought die because I know it's trouble - after all who wants to get slapped, or get a criminal record, or have a girl freak out on you? I'm always thinking of groping people. This morning, I walked up to an Indian girl from behind with her a$$ facing me and I was walking full speed toward her and in my mind I was going to grope really good - but she looked back while I was approaching and I smiled at her and walked to the check-out - she didn't smile back and thus I didn't get any attention validation from her, oh well.
I wonder what type of vibes I give off people when I'm horney and want to grope someone - even if I dont actually do it and it's just in my mind. I've never groped any girl in my life - it's against the standard of this home and against the standards of society as a whole (meaning there is a legal risk if a girl gets pissed) Anyway....guess I'm just have the hungry eyes syndrome.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH...
Wow man you should have a comedy act..
You've been sitting here for 10 pages of posts, talking about all this online sh1t, and now you tell us your mom was your winglady? WTF is all of this about groping mannequins man! Get a girl, instead of over analyzing. This has to be the longest joke I've ever seen on a forum, ever.
Wow man you should have a comedy act..
You've been sitting here for 10 pages of posts, talking about all this online sh1t, and now you tell us your mom was your winglady? WTF is all of this about groping mannequins man! Get a girl, instead of over analyzing. This has to be the longest joke I've ever seen on a forum, ever.
If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.
Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.
This will quickly drive all women away from you.
And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.
Docs
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What the fvck was that.......Luke Skywalker said:
Luke....
You got some unresolved issues... :nervous:
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I went to the cinema today to watch "Pirates of the Caribbean", and didn't have a date to go along with me (either my mom doesn't like them, or they dont really like me). So, I went, enjoyed the movie and a single girl comes in and sits a few seats next of me. I was totally unprepared. No pen, cell phone, business cards, nadda, and we stayed right until the last credits finished. At the end I did try to convo by talking about the movie and smiled before parting ways - but I cant help but feel I lost out by not pursuing a number / @-mail close -- I could have said "do you come out here allot? What types of movies you like to see" and sort of vibe on there - if she is a movie goer then that would be a good premise to have a movie buddy and take it from there. Oh well...I dont expect stuff like that to happen to me and when it does and I see a single girl out of the blue come and sit a few seats beside me, I'm like wow.
Docs
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Fvck man, that was golden for plopping your ass down beside her and laying your head on her shoulder, and when she askes what are you doing, you tell her she looked comfy, and then take her hand and watch the movie.
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I just set up a lunch date with the mortage broker tommorow, who offered to have sex with me for referrals, well, I just asked her out for lunch and will be seeing her tommorow.
Let's see what else -- I've only got 6 hits on my profile at match.com and not more than the couple of emails I got (probably admin) when I put up my profile, thus at this time, I'm formally requesting the partial money back guarantee from lookbetteronline.com.
In terms of net2bed-net2wed, their key concepts have all failed me. The concept of the picture and their recommendation for professional pic - strike one. Their special profile techniques - dealing with the 'electric contrast' concept, where he claims if you 'get it' then you've got your money's worth in the course, or probably 10 to 100 times the money's worth. Well, I guess I dont really 'get it' because with my profile and however I've written it, it doesn't seemed to have made a hit.
I can tinker a bit longer and try a few modifications of the 'electric contrast concept' but make it in more descriptive language instead but may just give myself a few days to see some improved results. I'll also check out what he uses on techniques as his first email contacts.
If anyone has tried net2bed-net2wed and it has worked for them, then now is the time to say something, but for me, it has not really made any major difference. My refund deadline for that would be around the last week of August so I still have some time to tinker around with my profile and read it up a bit more before I launch an official refund request.
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I'm starting to clone profiles inspired by net2bed-net2web from enotalone.
You see net2bed challenged me to produce a ups - unique selling proposition - what makes me different from the next guy that will prompt a girl to select me rather than another guy or any guy at all for that matter - and I made up a thread on enotalone asking people to answer the ups to get some ideas. I came up with one that goes like this written by a user on there"
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What sets me apart from many men is the fact that I have my life pretty much together. I'm highly spiritual in how I follow a moral code that allows me the strong character I've come to possess to take the right choice. I'm highly intelligent since it takes a great deal of knowledge to interact with the world in a positive and productive way. I'm highly successful in my career which grants me many opportunities to help others and care for my future family in the way a wonderful woman deserves. I'm highly emotionally stable so I can accurately perceive those around me and their intentions in order to help them in a positive manner. I'm physically well maintained so that I can continue this wonderful life for as long as God wants me to contribute to the world to fight the battle for incorruptible moral standards. I live a positively awesome life, and to me, it's the best in me that a fine lady will some day appreciate, admire, respect and love. Therefore, I'm very confidently proud in my abilities, yet I try to keep a balanced level of humility as I project my being to the world. And this intense focus in my life is why I'm not in need of a good woman, but I want a great woman to compliment my great fortune in life."
With a few modifications to personalise it to put on my profile, I've adopted this now into my official profile but will continue tinkering. First you have to find something that you believe in and feel good about sending....I think this profile is golden. I've adopted it on plentyoffish and enotalone and will see how the results go.
Let's see what else -- I've only got 6 hits on my profile at match.com and not more than the couple of emails I got (probably admin) when I put up my profile, thus at this time, I'm formally requesting the partial money back guarantee from lookbetteronline.com.
In terms of net2bed-net2wed, their key concepts have all failed me. The concept of the picture and their recommendation for professional pic - strike one. Their special profile techniques - dealing with the 'electric contrast' concept, where he claims if you 'get it' then you've got your money's worth in the course, or probably 10 to 100 times the money's worth. Well, I guess I dont really 'get it' because with my profile and however I've written it, it doesn't seemed to have made a hit.
I can tinker a bit longer and try a few modifications of the 'electric contrast concept' but make it in more descriptive language instead but may just give myself a few days to see some improved results. I'll also check out what he uses on techniques as his first email contacts.
If anyone has tried net2bed-net2wed and it has worked for them, then now is the time to say something, but for me, it has not really made any major difference. My refund deadline for that would be around the last week of August so I still have some time to tinker around with my profile and read it up a bit more before I launch an official refund request.
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I'm starting to clone profiles inspired by net2bed-net2web from enotalone.
You see net2bed challenged me to produce a ups - unique selling proposition - what makes me different from the next guy that will prompt a girl to select me rather than another guy or any guy at all for that matter - and I made up a thread on enotalone asking people to answer the ups to get some ideas. I came up with one that goes like this written by a user on there"
"
What sets me apart from many men is the fact that I have my life pretty much together. I'm highly spiritual in how I follow a moral code that allows me the strong character I've come to possess to take the right choice. I'm highly intelligent since it takes a great deal of knowledge to interact with the world in a positive and productive way. I'm highly successful in my career which grants me many opportunities to help others and care for my future family in the way a wonderful woman deserves. I'm highly emotionally stable so I can accurately perceive those around me and their intentions in order to help them in a positive manner. I'm physically well maintained so that I can continue this wonderful life for as long as God wants me to contribute to the world to fight the battle for incorruptible moral standards. I live a positively awesome life, and to me, it's the best in me that a fine lady will some day appreciate, admire, respect and love. Therefore, I'm very confidently proud in my abilities, yet I try to keep a balanced level of humility as I project my being to the world. And this intense focus in my life is why I'm not in need of a good woman, but I want a great woman to compliment my great fortune in life."
With a few modifications to personalise it to put on my profile, I've adopted this now into my official profile but will continue tinkering. First you have to find something that you believe in and feel good about sending....I think this profile is golden. I've adopted it on plentyoffish and enotalone and will see how the results go.
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mate time to turn gay i reckon
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Thats my brothers birthday lol.
My kid's going to have sex before Luke...
(ps I'm only 18)
Throw all your fvcking rules out the window and just approach some women with an empty mind...of course I know you won't do this but hey, maybe if enough people say it and things go on like this for another year you might actually consider what MORE EXPERIENCED people say good advice...
(ps I'm only 18)
Throw all your fvcking rules out the window and just approach some women with an empty mind...of course I know you won't do this but hey, maybe if enough people say it and things go on like this for another year you might actually consider what MORE EXPERIENCED people say good advice...
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Very well, I'll approach more women online, but most of the time my emails get deleted on most approaches that I do make, but can continue trying anyway....
i know 100% that Luke isn't fake, i read all of his whining and complaining on here:
http://www.enotalone.com/forum/search.php?searchid=1179271
no way a fake person would go on a serious site like that and try to seriously sound as clueless as he has. That site gives HORRIBLE advice by the way, such as "dont try to kiss a girl until you are in love with her.........HAHAHA"
Luke, turn your brain off and stop thinking, be like that football jock who gets all the girls - brain off, actions on
by the way, this is QUITE a quest..........u sure this isnt just a quest to have the longest running pointless thread on sosuave?
http://www.enotalone.com/forum/search.php?searchid=1179271
no way a fake person would go on a serious site like that and try to seriously sound as clueless as he has. That site gives HORRIBLE advice by the way, such as "dont try to kiss a girl until you are in love with her.........HAHAHA"
Luke, turn your brain off and stop thinking, be like that football jock who gets all the girls - brain off, actions on
by the way, this is QUITE a quest..........u sure this isnt just a quest to have the longest running pointless thread on sosuave?
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Well, date with mortage broker yesterday went alright - no major crash and burns on it - but as usual no action other than a handshake at the end.
The prior gf I was writing about seems to have left a few messages which either my cell phone wasn't working or something, but I am attempting to contact her back.
It seems, unless a girl initiates anything in an obvious and seductive way, nothing's going to happen. I tend to talk to my mom too much about my personal life and tend to have her life a close friend, and I think I'm unnecessarily crippling my game.
Perhaps Epsi is right - what I'm doing is having a 'sex-fantasy thought life' that's totally contrary to my asexual reality and that creates lots of friction. Every girl that's in my life turns into some sort of mirage in a desert with this pattern I have....dont know what to do about it and if approaching girls is an answer to breaking such patterns if I can even escalate with women I'm seeing for lunch or dating.
Anyway - at least I've successfully stopped looking at porn since April 10th or something and masturbation is extremely infrequent as a result of my policies. I've felt more 'horney' so, maybe the more horney I feel I may just be taking some more types of risks - but even that doesn't seem to be working.
The prior gf I was writing about seems to have left a few messages which either my cell phone wasn't working or something, but I am attempting to contact her back.
It seems, unless a girl initiates anything in an obvious and seductive way, nothing's going to happen. I tend to talk to my mom too much about my personal life and tend to have her life a close friend, and I think I'm unnecessarily crippling my game.
Perhaps Epsi is right - what I'm doing is having a 'sex-fantasy thought life' that's totally contrary to my asexual reality and that creates lots of friction. Every girl that's in my life turns into some sort of mirage in a desert with this pattern I have....dont know what to do about it and if approaching girls is an answer to breaking such patterns if I can even escalate with women I'm seeing for lunch or dating.
Anyway - at least I've successfully stopped looking at porn since April 10th or something and masturbation is extremely infrequent as a result of my policies. I've felt more 'horney' so, maybe the more horney I feel I may just be taking some more types of risks - but even that doesn't seem to be working.