Colin O'Brien
Don Juan
what is the generally accepted (among you folk) way of posing this question?
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
proper way to see if a girl wants to be FWB
- Thread starter Colin O'Brien
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"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
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Don Juan
who you calling "you folk"?
The times that I've had a FWB, it's gone like this:
1. We meet through a common social circle
2. We hookup, usually at/after a party or a night out
3. Afterwards, we have the inevitable "talk" about what it meant
4. We both agree that it was fun, but we're not looking for much more
5. Rinse and repeat
It's tough to put into words that kind of proposal before the deed is done at least once, in my opinion.
1. We meet through a common social circle
2. We hookup, usually at/after a party or a night out
3. Afterwards, we have the inevitable "talk" about what it meant
4. We both agree that it was fun, but we're not looking for much more
5. Rinse and repeat
It's tough to put into words that kind of proposal before the deed is done at least once, in my opinion.
I mack a girl...and sleep with her...the next time she comes over, I tell her that I really like her, but not looking for anything serious. Usually they 99.9% of the time will agree and say, "I am not looking for anything serious either". From there on it, it is pretty easy.
Girls tend to prefer sex without all the BS of a relationship.
All I have ever had were lovers or fvck buddies...which sucks...now that I want a GF, I can't get either..HA!!!
Girls tend to prefer sex without all the BS of a relationship.
All I have ever had were lovers or fvck buddies...which sucks...now that I want a GF, I can't get either..HA!!!
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Yes and they love to pretend that that is not the case.... They hate admitting they are a ho, i which keep telling them, is not a bad word.Tantric said:Girls tend to prefer sex without all the BS of a relationship.
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.