"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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VAboi

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Sup guys, I asked this girl out 2 weeks ago and she accepted but canceled 2 hours before the date, she was apologetic and it seemed like a legit excuse.

Anyway, she then added me on snapchat 2 days after canceling the date.

I think of this as her putting herself into my orbit. Because, other girls that I've asked out never added me on snapchat. Only girls that I've dated or girls that I've ****ed have added me on snapchat. *I didn't date or **** this girl yet.

I'm thinking of asking her out on Tuesday, probably bantering for a few texts then asking her out on Tuesday.

Is this a good course of action? Or should I simply ask her when she's free? Or not ask her out at all.

Do you think this is a case of orbit or proximity?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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dude99

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Sup guys, I asked this girl out 2 weeks ago and she accepted but canceled 2 hours before the date, she was apologetic and it seemed like a legit excuse.

Anyway, she then added me on snapchat 2 days after canceling the date.

I think of this as her putting herself into my orbit. Because, other girls that I've asked out never added me on snapchat. Only girls that I've dated or girls that I've ****ed have added me on snapchat. *I didn't date or **** this girl yet.

I'm thinking of asking her out on Tuesday, probably bantering for a few texts then asking her out on Tuesday.

Is this a good course of action? Or should I simply ask her when she's free? Or not ask her out at all.

Do you think this is a case of orbit or proximity?
She putting herself into your orbit?

Or is she sticking you into hers?

When she cancelled the date 2 hours before did she counter offer with another time she would like to go out with you? If not then i would say no matter how appologetic she seems, her interest is too low for it to be legit.

Then she added you on snap chat. Did she ask you out on snap chat? Set up the next date? I would view the adding you to snap chat is her sticking you into her orbit. She is keeping you interested through manipulation.

I would not ask her out again. There is nothing her that says she is interested in dating you. Ghost her until she reaches out to you. If she is interested, she will wonder where you went after a few days. If she doesn't reachout then you have your answer. Next.
 

dude99

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She has added you to her orbit. Ask her out again. if she declines and doesn't counter move on.
Sorry i responded to his post before reading yours. I agree with your orbit assesment
 

CMNILS87

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If she didnt reschedule, don't waste your time. Seriously.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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