"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
digitalrat
Senior Don Juan
This was for testing purposes only.
This was for educational purposes only I repeat.
CableLight
Master Don Juan
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
At any rate, I promise I will behave! It's just so hard not to say fukk in everything I post, but I will try to keep my Turret's Syndrome under control. Fair enough? It would be cool to have my old screen name back but, whatever.
Kind of ironic that the poster of the censor thread gets banned. hehe, at least I can laugh at myself!
Look, in a forum that has, say, a thousand visitors (where prolly only 4 or 500 people will post), then it's all fine and dandy to cuss like sailors. But here at sosuave, we have over 8000 registered users and there is a ton of posting going on here every day. If the mods, primarily allen, didn't do everything they could to keep this board in order, it would plunge into chaos. Cencorship may not be a huge thing, but it does contribute.
For example, if you are into martial arts you may know of a forum called sherdog, there, the mods do a very poor job of keeping things in order and, aside from posting 20 or 30 times a day, they seem quite lazy. At sherdog, there was about 12000 registered users last time i checked, more than there are here but it's still in the same ballpark. People, if you've ever gone to these forums you'd know that the mods are less strict than allen, and the penalty? Well, when one person disagrees with another, it usually takes about 5 seconds before it turns into "**** YOU YOU ****ING **** **** **** FACE ****ER GO **** YOUR MOMMA'S TITTIES AND SHOOT YOURSELF YOU WORTHLES ****ING **** ****!!!!"
I'm sure Allen knows that guys like blitz and gio can swear responsibly, and if there were no rules here, I'm sure they could still remain responsible posters. But I shudder to think about what would happen to these boards if the thousands of less mature posters started abusing the whole "no rules" thing.
I don't know how much cencorship contributes to the order of things around here, but things are still in order and as long as things stay that way I'm not going to ask for any changes in the way allen runs this board.
digitalrat
Senior Don Juan
Ditto. But, I don't see any ads and this site is on a nice connection. It doesnt lag that much and its rarely down. I will put up with the censors for no ads and a slow server.
Smooth as Anything
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Bungo Pony
Master Don Juan
That's my theory anyway.