POF women are flakes

[9Volt]

Show me where I said I was meeting them.


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So you present pictures of a woman on a bottom of the barrel website that you aren't meeting as evidence of the success you enjoy from improving every aspect of your life.

Brilliant

 

[l_e_g_e_n_d]

So you present pictures of a woman on a bottom of the barrel website that you aren't meeting as evidence of the success you enjoy from improving every aspect of your life.

Show me where I present a picture of a woman that I'm not meeting for the purpose of furnishing evidence of the success that one can enjoy from improving every aspect of their life.

Brilliant

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[9Volt]

Show me where I present a picture of a woman that I'm not meeting for the purpose of furnishing evidence of the success that one can enjoy from improving every aspect of their life.


Another antagonizing word?

You provided the link. Guess you're going to meet her to prove the level of success men such as yourself can achieve by improving every aspect of their lives while rooting through low quality women that reside on a bottom of the barrel dating app.

it's not her fault. it's yours. remember that.

 

[l_e_g_e_n_d]

You provided the link. Guess you're going to meet her to prove the level of success men such as yourself can achieve by improving every aspect of their lives while rooting through low quality women that reside on a bottom of the barrel dating app.

Show me where I said I was going meet her to prove the level of success men such as myself can achieve by improving every aspect of their lives.

while rooting through low quality women that reside on a bottom of the barrel dating app.

More antagonizing words?

 

[9Volt]

Show me where I said I was going meet her to prove the level of success men such as myself can achieve by improving every aspect of their lives.


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And there's the root of your problem. you're too undecided. women like men of action. to meet or not to meet that is the question.


take your own advice and get to work. You've got important decisions to make legend.

Either way whatever happens it's your fault. never hers.

 

[l_e_g_e_n_d]

And there's the root of your problem. you're too undecided. women like men of action. to meet or not to meet that is the question.

Show me where the focus of my sharing was contemplating my action or intent with this particular girl.

take your own advice and get to work. You've got important decisions to make legend.

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[Roober]

Are you not telling men it's their fault while assuming it can't possibly be the chicks fault?

then using old bottom of the barrel diving as "evidence" of what "successful" men do?

men should improve for themselves. And meet chicks irl. not in virtual dive bars because "look at this quality" which was a profile of three headshots of a chick who's using pof no less.

then trying to act as if pof isn't notorious for bottom of the barrel.

typical of a coward. when hes losing a disagreement claims "troll" to make the "bad man" stop.

I said you were from NY. and you are.

you're also an ex con. why should anyone take you serious legend?

some have more success in OLD than others. Maybe we should just accept that for what it is. My success on POF has been moderate at best. legend obviously has much more success that any of us do. The women on there seem to really range, especially on POF. I have seen lots of single moms who likely dont have much time to go meet men, and women of decent quality. My pictures suck, so I cant really attest to pulling quality women on there. The two women I have gone out with are both the type of single moms I would never take any more than a pump and dump. However, a sample of 2 is certainly not a large enough sample determine any real value.

women in OLD, especially that app, get TONS of messages. Therefore, they get to filter to their best criteria. If you dont meet one of them, they are likely to flake on you. Just for perspective, my mom signed up and got 50 emails within 5 hours. I love moms, but she is in her 50's, a bit overweight, and doesn't really take care of herself.

Attractive single women have TONS of options on there, so you really need to "appear" as a 3% man. The problem is that appearances usually don't translate to quality and guys like me with average pics won't ever get the chance to show that to them. Women want the best available just like we do. OFten times, you will find that these women only use OLD for short periods of time for validation or just get tired of the thousands of messages to filter.

 

[9Volt]

some have more success in OLD than others. Maybe we should just accept that for what it is. My success on POF has been moderate at best. legend obviously has much more success that any of us do. The women on there seem to really range, especially on POF. I have seen lots of single moms who likely dont have much time to go meet men, and women of decent quality. My pictures suck, so I cant really attest to pulling quality women on there. The two women I have gone out with are both the type of single moms I would never take any more than a pump and dump. However, a sample of 2 is certainly not a large enough sample determine any real value.

If looks in a picture is the only thing you're going for in terms of "quality" especially on a site like pof you better hope you don't get what you wish for.

I destroyed pof when I was on there. vast majority of them I didn't bother to meet. not only the obvious fugly chicks but the good looking ones were all screwed up.

no joke I've heard it ALL from chicks on there. got the n00dz. rooms looked like bombs went off in them. tats galore, mental issues. two I know personally had been institutionalized twice for trying to off themselves. another was drunk everytime we talked. another blackmailed the company we worked at, got fired, had an abortion, worked part time in a strip club and is a known mess from others I know who know her. and these chicks are very attractive.

another got an std from her husband who divorced her. another was a complete gold digging pro dinner dater who told me she had crystals in her apt to keep away the negative energy. chick was banging but a nutcase.

another engaged twice and easily flew off the handle. light skinned black chick. another Asian chick had criminal court dates for some sh1t. and these were only a tiny amount of the shyt I heard directly from them.
another chick I know is an alcoholic known coke head who my friend was banging while her fiance was outside.

one chick told me she was getting kicked out by her room mate because she had no money and smoked whacky weed all day and night and was sick from not eating.

another chick had been molested by her uncle.

a few others domestic abuse.

these were a tiny tip of the iceberg. not texting. actually speaking on the phone or knowing a few I saw on there.

if you heard the shyt you'd be like is this real life?

you can't make this shyt up if you tried.

I could go on for days. first hand. real life. facts.

bottom of the barrel basura. no matter what they look like or how "sweet" their profile may seem.

that's not including the mass amount of hood rats, strippers, single moms, fake profiles, and needless to say trannies infesting that virtual garbage pile. pof is free for a reason.

be glad you don't get replies. they're doing you a favor. no joke.

 

[9Volt]

Show me where the focus of my sharing was contemplating my action or intent with this particular girl.


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Show us action. not words. you're the cause of your own issues.

 

[l_e_g_e_n_d]

Show us action. not words. you're the cause of your own issues.

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[9Volt]

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^^You ok legend? Get ahold of yourself man. we're here to help.

 

[l_e_g_e_n_d]

^^You ok legend? Get ahold of yourself man. we're here to help.

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[Tenacity]

1) MLK was an activist and you are not. If you really had a deep passion with this, what actions have you taken outside of this forum to effect your stance?

I've donated my time and money to various Men's Rights Organizations. So in that regard, I am an activist.

2) Black men were truly not free 50 years ago. Women are free unfettered by social constructs to act on their hypergamous impulses as they desire. The former group, blacks, were not free. The latter group, women, are free. These two examples (blacks & women), are too disparate for comparison.

I'm not advocating that women be enslaved, I'm advocating that MEN not be enslaved to the bullshyt games, systems, rules, and feminist/gynocentric shyt that they continue to establish.

We are losing MEN and we have destroyed masculinity. Women establish the frame, establish the values, establish the god damn RULES....and we sit up here like fools trying to fit into THEIR frame, THEIR values, and play according to THEIR rules, in order to get a piece of run down, used, beat up pvssy.

3) Even if we made this allowance, in arguendo, to make blacks in the 50s and women today comparable, what are the chances of effecting change in the current market? One in a million? Are you truly a martyr now where you are going sacrifice your sanity and happiness for a one in the million crap shoot? Doesn't seem like a provident gamble to me.

It's THIS line of thinking that have allowed the women to take over. Notice how women stick together and fight for each other. Notice that.

In other words, we do not have universal conformity in the belief that woman should being ruled by an iron fist and being subjugated to man is better for society (although we believe that here), but we do have 100% conformity in the belief that innovative technology can improve the world and improve everyone's lives.

What? There are people out there that STILL to this DAY don't think mobile phones and social media (innovative technology) plays a positive role in society.

And when it comes to women, you tell me Legend? Were families stronger 50 years ago or are they stronger today? Was marriage stronger 50 years ago or is it stronger today? Were women more CLASSY and LADY-LIKE 50 years ago than they are today? Were MEN more MASCULINE 50 years ago than they are today?

You tell me..........if the answer to all is YES, then we should agree that Patriarchy is better than the bullshyt pseudo Matriarchial environment that we have right now.

I'd say let the women who like gay men be with gay men, and stick with the women who appreciate your sexuality.

You aren't getting it Legend. 50 years ago women were NOT bisexual/lesbian like they are today and thugs, criminals, and losers were not WORSHIPPED. The more and more we sit back and allow women to just run wild....the worse and worse the shyt gets to the POINT where it's difficult or damn near impossible to FIND quality.

You requested an honest discussion, right? How many women have you lost as a result of your episodes?

Why do you keep talking about these episodes man? For the record, when I would go off on a chick, the vast majority of the time I already LOST HER, or she was already acting a god damn fool and it was annoying to me.

You keep bringing up the episodes in an attempt to .........once again......put the focus back on blaming the MAN for everything rather than looking at any of the bullshyt that women are doing. Why do you keep doing this?

Everything is about balance. I don't blame the women for everything and I don't blame the men for everything. BOTH men and women have a part to do with the fvcked up environment we are operating in and we can't begin to solve the problem until we are all HONEST in having this discussion.

 

[9Volt]

I've donated my time and money to various Men's Rights Organizations. So in that regard, I am an activist.



I'm not advocating that women be enslaved, I'm advocating that MEN not be enslaved to the bullshyt games, systems, rules, and feminist/gynocentric shyt that they continue to establish.

We are losing MEN and we have destroyed masculinity. Women establish the frame, establish the values, establish the god damn RULES....and we sit up here like fools trying to fit into THEIR frame, THEIR values, and play according to THEIR rules, in order to get a piece of run down, used, beat up pvssy.




It's THIS line of thinking that have allowed the women to take over. Notice how women stick together and fight for each other. Notice that.



What? There are people out there that STILL to this DAY don't think mobile phones and social media (innovative technology) plays a positive role in society.

And when it comes to women, you tell me Legend? Were families stronger 50 years ago or are they stronger today? Was marriage stronger 50 years ago or is it stronger today? Were women more CLASSY and LADY-LIKE 50 years ago than they are today? Were MEN more MASCULINE 50 years ago than they are today?

You tell me..........if the answer to all is YES, then we should agree that Patriarchy is better than the bullshyt pseudo Matriarchial environment that we have right now.



You aren't getting it Legend. 50 years ago women were NOT bisexual/lesbian like they are today and thugs, criminals, and losers were not WORSHIPPED. The more and more we sit back and allow women to just run wild....the worse and worse the shyt gets to the POINT where it's difficult or damn near impossible to FIND quality.



Why do you keep talking about these episodes man? For the record, when I would go off on a chick, the vast majority of the time I already LOST HER, or she was already acting a god damn fool and it was annoying to me.

You keep bringing up the episodes in an attempt to .........once again......put the focus back on blaming the MAN for everything rather than looking at any of the bullshyt that women are doing. Why do you keep doing this?

Everything is about balance. I don't blame the women for everything and I don't blame the men for everything. BOTH men and women have a part to do with the fvcked up environment we are operating in and we can't begin to solve the problem until we are all HONEST in having this discussion.

legend is doing his best poon king impersonation.

whereas poon king made everything women's fault. legend does the same act and says it's always men's fault.

And they both got all the babes.

 

[Tenacity]

legend is doing his best poon king impersonation.

whereas poon king made everything women's fault. legend does the same act and says it's always men's fault.

And they both got all the babes.

Right, Poon King was very one-dimensional and Legend is basically the opposite just with blaming everything on the Man.

I mean the entire "personal responsibility" message is an honorable route, but you have to be balanced, logical, and credible with the approach. You preach personal responsibility when a person actually has CONTROL over shyt, not when they have no or very limited control.

Preach personal responsibility when:

- You are telling someone to lose weight
- You are telling someone to get on a budget
- You are telling someone to pray more
- You are telling someone to work on being a better person

These are things the person can CONTROL.

How the hell can I control a woman playing games? How the hell can I control the fact that over half of women are bisexual or lesbian? How the hell can I control the fact that women are WARPED and chase after broke, bums, losers? How the hell can I control the fact that THE MAJORITY of women are overweight??

 

[l_e_g_e_n_d]

I've donated my time and money to various Men's Rights Organizations. So in that regard, I am an activist.

As part of your tithe. That doesn't make you an activist.

And when it comes to women, you tell me Legend? Were families stronger 50 years ago or are they stronger today? Was marriage stronger 50 years ago or is it stronger today? Were women more CLASSY and LADY-LIKE 50 years ago than they are today? Were MEN more MASCULINE 50 years ago than they are today?

Yes, yes, yes, and yes.

You tell me..........if the answer to all is YES, then we should agree that Patriarchy is better than the bullshyt pseudo Matriarchial environment that we have right now.

For marriage and family unity, yes.

You aren't getting it Legend. 50 years ago women were NOT bisexual/lesbian like they are today and thugs, criminals, and losers were not WORSHIPPED. The more and more we sit back and allow women to just run wild....the worse and worse the shyt gets to the POINT where it's difficult or damn near impossible to FIND quality.

Now answer this truly. Real discussion here: Are you in this "war" because you care about society or are you in this "war" because of the lack of quality which YOU can't find. Let's be honest here.

Why do you keep talking about these episodes man? For the record, when I would go off on a chick, the vast majority of the time I already LOST HER, or she was already acting a god damn fool and it was annoying to me.

You keep bringing up the episodes in an attempt to .........once again......put the focus back on blaming the MAN for everything rather than looking at any of the bullshyt that women are doing. Why do you keep doing this?

By your own admission, you lost a handful of girls because you went postal on them. Is this correct? We can find, copy/paste if need be.

Everything is about balance. I don't blame the women for everything and I don't blame the men for everything. BOTH men and women have a part to do with the fvcked up environment we are operating in and we can't begin to solve the problem until we are all HONEST in having this discussion.

Where do you find most peace: Fighting an insurmountable gender war--or--accepting women as they are (knowing the rules of the game) and being the best damn player? --Albert Einstein

 

[9Volt]

Right, Poon King was very one-dimensional and Legend is basically the opposite just with blaming everything on the Man.

I mean the entire "personal responsibility" message is an honorable route, but you have to be balanced, logical, and credible with the approach. You preach personal responsibility when a person actually has CONTROL over shyt, not when they have no or very limited control.

Preach personal responsibility when:

- You are telling someone to lose weight
- You are telling someone to get on a budget
- You are telling someone to pray more
- You are telling someone to work on being a better person

These are things the person can CONTROL.

How the hell can I control a woman playing games? How the hell can I control the fact that over half of women are bisexual or lesbian? How the hell can I control the fact that women are WARPED and chase after broke, bums, losers? How the hell can I control the fact that THE MAJORITY of women are overweight??

Don't try to find quality on pof. seriously.

I could go on with shyt I heard that would make your head spin.

"pillars to the community" flock to pof like flies on shyt.

it's good downtime passing amusement. but they are all severely damaged goods. that's why they live on that site and other dating apps at once.

try to go to upscale mixed lounges, after hours work places where professionals such as yourself go. Google top rated spots. they don't always have to be 5 star wallet busters. after hour specials etc.

not every chick is dating losers unless you consider every chick you want dating a loser because she isn't dating you.

go out and just bs with chicks at those places and see where their heads are at.

 

[l_e_g_e_n_d]

How the hell can I control a woman playing games?

By giving her no control by removal. Whether she plays or doesn't play games doesn't matter. You control yourself by not perceiving her at all, if she is doltish enough to play. The onus falls on your thinking and response.

Act: Girl plays games.
Response: You're gone.

How the hell can I control the fact that over half of women are bisexual or lesbian?

By being indifferent to bi's and lesbians. And selective in who YOU choose to enter your life. The onus falls on your standards.

How the hell can I control the fact that women are WARPED and chase after broke, bums, losers?

By being indifferent to thug chasers. And selective in who YOU choose to enter your life. The onus falls on your standards.

How the hell can I control the fact that THE MAJORITY of women are overweight??

By being indifferent to fat women. And selective in who YOU choose to enter your life. The onus falls on your standards.

 

[l_e_g_e_n_d]

Come on MEN, think deeper.

Bring me ANY circumstance in your life and I will show you how the onus falls upon you.

 

[9Volt]

i agree with legends response Tenacity. be indifferent to the thug chasers and leave them to the ex cons that try to pick them up on pof.

it's not the thug chasing chicks fault they choose ex cons. it's the ex cons fault for committing his crimes in the first place.

legend is showing by example his personal accountability.