"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Ad hominems? Somebody is really affected here.

Is this what you do when you feel humiliated?
I'm not diving for quality on pof so I have no reason to be humiliated.

this is an online forum bro. relax. take a deep breath. it's going to be alright.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I'm not diving for quality on pof so I have no reason to be humiliated.

this is an online forum bro. relax. take a deep breath. it's going to be alright.
Seems like some antagonizing words here. Why do you feel the need to antagonize other posters?
 

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Seems like some antagonizing words here. Why do you feel the need to antagonize other posters?
If you require head nodding yes men or else you consider it "antagonizing" that's your issue.

I don't need complete head nodding yes men agreement with every statement I make.

its a discussion forum. not delivering monologues from a pulpit.
 

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If you require head nodding yes men or else you consider it "antagonizing" that's your issue.

I don't need complete head nodding yes men agreement with every statement I make.

its a discussion forum. not delivering monologues from a pulpit.
It's clear that you have been trolling my posts. Further, all your assertions are unsubstantiated nor have you shown that the assertions you claim I made were made by me--despite my repeated requests to have normal dialogue.

So if you continue to make unsubstantiated assertions and refuse to source your assertions, but instead purport additional straw-assertions, then it is reasonable to any reader that you are trolling.

So again I ask you: Why are you trolling and attempting to antagonize with ad hominens and straw-assertions?
 

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It's clear that you have been trolling my posts. Further, all your assertions are unsubstantiated nor have you shown that the assertions you claim I made were made by me--despite my repeated requests to have normal dialogue.

So if you continue to make unsubstantiated assertions and refuse to source your assertions, but instead purport additional straw-assertions, then it is reasonable to any reader that you are trolling.

So again I ask you: Why are you trolling and attempting to antagonize with ad hominens and straw-assertions?
Why are you telling men it's their fault and it can't possibly ever be the chick at fault.

why are you using pof dregs as evidence of what men who are successful in every aspect of life should strive for.

are you not talking about all the quality women you meet using pof and providing profiles of them. the one you replied to who had three headshots only?

Are you even self aware?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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why are you using pof dregs as evidence of what men who are successful in every aspect of life should strive for.
Show me where I said a specific or group of women on pof is what men in every aspect of life should strive for.

9Volt said:
are you not talking about all the quality women you meet using pof and providing profiles of them. the one you replied to who had three headshots only?
Show me where I said all the women I meet on pof were quality.

Show me where I said any girl I displayed or replied to from pof is quality.

9Volt said:
Are you even self aware?
More antagonizing words?
 

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Show me where I said a specific or group of women on pof is what men in every aspect of life should strive for.


Show me where I said all the women I meet on pof were quality.


More antagonizing words?
You used number rating and tried to pass the best looking who use old as some sort of quality.

Again it's no secret pof is bottom of the barrel yet that is what you present as evidence of "success".

you can't polish a turd and tell people it's a diamond.

I guess my trash is your treasure
 

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You used number rating and tried to pass the best looking who use old as some sort of quality.
Show me where I stated the "best looking," or how any good-looking girl was quality by virtue of her looks.

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Again it's no secret pof is bottom of the barrel yet that is what you present as evidence of "success".
Show me that what I did present was stated to be evidence of "success."
you can't polish a turd and tell people it's a diamond.
More antagonizing words?

I guess my trash is your treasure.
More antagonizing words?
 

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Show me where I stated the "best looking," or how any good-looking girl was quality by virtue of her looks.


Show me that what I did present was stated to be evidence of "success."

More antagonizing words?


More antagonizing words?
You sound like you're trying to convince yourself of your own nonsense.

why bother showing or rating chicks using pof then if you know your serving up dog food.

maybe you'll convince someone else pof is the route to go like Legend.

I'm not buying it.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I'll continue getting booty in real life, POF is a supplement to my diet
 

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Legend and 9Volt, you guys want to cool it a little with the back and forth because we don't want this thread closed ;)! We are all grown men here, so we have to be able to discuss/debate our sides without getting off the track.

Ok, let's run with your contention that all women are crazy. Again, why can't you accept them as they are?
- Why couldn't MLK have accepted white people as they were 50 years ago? (in which they were racist). Why couldn't the various entrepreneurs and investors have accepted the world, the market, a sector, etc., as it was, instead of pushing their new inventions into the market?

- Legend are we MEN or what? Do we sit around and just "accept" unjust shyt in life, OR, do we stand for particular morals, values, and beliefs, and fight back against the bullshyt?

At what point is ENOUGH ENOUGH for you Legend? For example, if chicks all started fvcking gay men (which is already happening BTW) and being GAY was considered "attractive" to women, thus, screwing another man in his a.ss would get you pvssy....would you advocate that men "improve" their "SMV" by becoming GAY?

Serious question and while it sounds extreme I want you to understand...that GAY shyt is already happening!

Because women are already doing insane stupid shyt out here like worshipping thugs, worshipping criminals, worshipping Boston Bombers, worshipping Terrorists, etc., and people like YOU get up on this forum and actually analyze the quote, unquote "good qualities" of these piece of shyt men that other guys on here should somehow "adapt" to be like as it will "increase their SMV".....to please a group of women who have LOST their god damn mind.


Another thought to ponder on: let's say there were exceptions to the crazy women and we identified a few sane ones. What makes you think you could keep a sane women with your monthly episodes and internal emotional turmoil?
You are over-estimating my "episodes". It's not that serious, trust me.
 

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Remember dudes. Work on your value in every aspect of life so you too can one day become an anonymous legend on a forum presenting chicks from a bottom of the barrel website as evidence of success.

And never forget. It's never a chicks fault. that's impossible. it's always yours because your value, game etc just wasn't good enough no matter what negatives she possesses.

anything other to the contrary is toxic "trolling".
 

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I want to ask guys like 9 volt, Tenacity and others how many messages a week you get from females messaging you first?
I honestly don't count, MOST of the chicks who message me first aren't attractive at all.

But I do "pretty good" on OLD considering the fact that I get a ton of numbers, new dates, and new pvssy from the shyt, despite the VARIETY of games, flakes, and other bullshyt you have to deal with from that medium.

But the bulk of these numbers are coming from me inboxing the girl first. Very, very, rarely does a girl that's attractive inbox me first, usually only the unattractive chicks inbox me first.
 

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Tenacity said:
Why couldn't MLK have accepted white people as they were 50 years ago? (in which they were racist)
1) MLK was an activist and you are not. If you really had a deep passion with this, what actions have you taken outside of this forum to effect your stance?

2) Black men were truly not free 50 years ago. Women are free unfettered by social constructs to act on their hypergamous impulses as they desire. The former group, blacks, were not free. The latter group, women, are free. These two examples (blacks & women), are too disparate for comparison.

3) Even if we made this allowance, in arguendo, to make blacks in the 50s and women today comparable, what are the chances of effecting change in the current market? One in a million? Are you truly a martyr now where you are going sacrifice your sanity and happiness for a one in the million crap shoot? Doesn't seem like a provident gamble to me.
Tenacity said:
Why couldn't the various entrepreneurs and investors have accepted the world, the market, a sector, etc., as it was, instead of pushing their new inventions into the market?
Here you compare an entrepreneur innovating technology to clearly improve the world with forcing women to uphold traditional behaviors, which, dependent on the manner of perspective, could be liberating or immuring.

In other words, we do not have universal conformity in the belief that woman should being ruled by an iron fist and being subjugated to man is better for society (although we believe that here), but we do have 100% conformity in the belief that innovative technology can improve the world and improve everyone's lives.

The two concepts are disparate, and thus not comparable.

Tenacity said:
At what point is ENOUGH ENOUGH for you Legend? For example, if chicks all started fvcking gay men (which is already happening BTW) and being GAY was considered "attractive" to women, thus, screwing another man in his a.ss would get you pvssy....would you advocate that men "improve" their "SMV" by becoming GAY?
I'd say let the women who like gay men be with gay men, and stick with the women who appreciate your sexuality. Have clear standards of what you deem acceptable, and disqualify women who don't meet those standards. Simple. It's never an all/none dichotomy for multi-dimensional thinkers.
Tenacity said:
Because women are already doing insane stupid shyt out here like worshipping thugs, worshipping criminals, worshipping Boston Bombers, worshipping Terrorists, etc., and people like YOU get up on this forum and actually analyze the quote, unquote "good qualities" of these piece of shyt men that other guys on here should somehow "adapt" to be like as it will "increase their SMV", please a group of women who have LOST their god damn mind.
This is your choice Tenacity. I've been with hundreds of women, and not one worshiped any of the people you mentioned. Not rocket science here. Choose different women.

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You are over-estimating my "episodes". It's not that serious, trust me.
You requested an honest discussion, right? How many women have you lost as a result of your episodes?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Remember dudes. Work on your value in every aspect of life so you too can one day become an anonymous legend on a forum presenting chicks from a bottom of the barrel website as evidence of success.
More antagonizing words?

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And never forget. It's never a chicks fault. that's impossible. it's always yours because your value, game etc just wasn't good enough no matter what negatives she possesses.
It is not a girl's fault if she doesn't like you. I'm sorry you feel so affected by your myriad rejections. The fault is in YOUR thinking to be feel so affected.

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anything other to the contrary is toxic "trolling".
More antagonizing words?
 

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More antagonizing words?


It is not a girl's fault if she doesn't like you. I'm sorry you feel so affected by your myriad rejections. The fault is in YOUR thinking to be feel so affected.


More antagonizing words?
You assume rejection.

true some women won't like me nor you nor any other dude no matter how much we may improve for ourselves. that's life. glad you agree with me. you're starting to get it.

men also reject toxic chicks. Believe it or not. I'm one of those men. Like it or not.
 

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men also reject toxic chicks. Believe it or not. I'm one of those men. Like it or not.
According to your statement earlier, verbatim, "I have no value, and I still meet women."

If you have no value, you are not rejecting any women.
 

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According to your statement earlier, verbatim, "I have no value, and I still meet women."

If you have no value, you are not rejecting any women.
getting three headshots replies isn't meeting them.

you're dumpster diving.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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