Plinco's cold approach journal

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

Because some people believe they can completely change her mind with 'game'. (speaking more for the old school community than this forum or even in general)

I believe there is a place for that, specifically when it comes to verbal seduction.

However, to me, that can evolve into chasing, quick.

But I don't believe the OP is not speaking in terms of seduction..he's more talking about building short conversation rapport.

Big difference.

 

[SW15]

If you went too a forum like skilledseducer, I think you would soon understand the confusion (e.g most of the guys there claim they can bang literally any girl they want. No matter what they look like. Since their 'game', that involves NLP and other nonsense is so advanced that it's akind to brainwashing or jedi mind control! lol)

Attraction and seduction is the combination of looks, money, status, and personality.

Personality, including NLP, is the least significant variable.

Looks, including height, is the number #1 variable.

Money can really help in the right situations too.

 

[Plinco]

That is never a positive thing.

Not according to my mindset. This isn't work, it's fun.

It's unknown how long that conversation was that @Plinco had, but it is doubtful that was more than 60-90 seconds. It's doubtful he wasted that much time. I'd rather get a soft no (conversation fizzles) than an IHAB, hard no like that.

I posted a summary of the conversation. In reality, it was about a three minute conversation.

I'm not taking that kind of rejection personally.

 

[Clockwerk50]

Attraction and seduction is the combination of looks, money, status, and personality.

Personality, including NLP, is the least significant variable.

Looks, including height, is the number #1 variable.

Money can really help in the right situations too.

You’re both missing a variable: what the target values. Most of the time, it depends on the woman’s internal state at the moment of contact, boredom with her current life, stress, emotional dissatisfaction, craving for adventure, or simply an empty space in her mind that’s waiting to be filled. External factors also play a role such as timing, environment, social pressure, and mood. Truthfully, a seducer controls maybe 40%, at best less than 50%, of the overall dynamic.

 

[Barrister]

60-90 seconds is long compared to 5-10 seconds.

Me: Excuse me miss, are you single?

Her: No, I have a boyfriend.

Me: Aight, you know I had to ask .

Her: But thank you .

Me: You're welcome .

*Walks away, curtain closes*

10 seconds, tops.

Cut chatter. Get to the point. Keep it simple.

Trivial, bullshiit talk about a damn TV stand or the weather is a waste of time.

This approach may seem blunt but in reality it is a huge turn on for women. It exudes confidence. Remember that boldness is almost always rewarded.

Even if you get the lady who legitimately is in an LTR of some sort, they typically still will enjoy this interaction. I think men get scared into thinking they will come off “creepy” or some other nonsense.

 

[Clockwerk50]

To be fair, the question ‘Are you single?’ is pleasurable because it’s ambiguous and it is the opposite of bold. The user is implying various possibilities without committing to any of them. It flirts with intimacy while maintaining plausible deniability.

This is what @We_ArE_VeNOM
promotes as boldness to the members here, following his Mode 1 procedure.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

This approach may seem blunt but in reality it is a huge turn on for women. It exudes confidence. Remember that boldness is almost always rewarded.

Even if you get the lady who legitimately is in an LTR of some sort, they typically still will enjoy this interaction. I think men get scared into thinking they will come off “creepy” or some other nonsense.

Simplicity wins.

Keep it simple.

Wing Chun fighting principal: The quickest and most efficient path between two points is a straight line.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

To be fair, the question ‘Are you single?’ is pleasurable because it’s ambiguous and it is the opposite of bold. The user is implying various possibilities without committing to any of them. It flirts with intimacy while maintaining plausible deniability.

This is what @We_ArE_VeNOM
promotes as boldness to the members here, following his Mode 1 procedure.

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It is what it is .

 

[Plinco]

You’re both missing a variable: what the target values. Most of the time, it depends on the woman’s internal state at the moment of contact, boredom with her current life, stress, emotional dissatisfaction, craving for adventure, or simply an empty space in her mind that’s waiting to be filled. External factors also play a role such as timing, environment, social pressure, and mood. Truthfully, a seducer controls maybe 40%, at best less than 50%, of the overall dynamic.

Why would someone worry about something that they don't control?


Also,
@We_ArE_VeNOM @SW15 @Clockwerk50 @Barrister @characternote
I want to remind you and everyone else here that happiness, honesty, integrity, productiveness, independence, reason, and a sense of pride are all more important that sex. This idea that rejection is a horrible thing, sex is all important, and talking to strangers not at all fun are such black pill mentalities.

 

[Plinco]

This morning I got onto Bumble and Tinder

On Bumble, I have a search of radius 50 miles and have set the age range between 18 to 25. There were three new woman that popped up since I logged on more than a week ago. I swiped left on two of them and right on the other one.

On Tinder, I have a search of radius 30 miles and have set the age range between 18 to 25. It's been more than a week also since I brought that app up and six new women popped up. Swiped left on three and right on three.

Swipe apps are not a good option. They worked well ten years ago when I used them in Orlando but I don't see the benefit here.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

Also,
@We_ArE_VeNOM @SW15 @Clockwerk50 @Barrister @characternote
I want to remind you and everyone else here that happiness, honesty, integrity, productiveness, independence, reason, and a sense of pride

Mode One philosophy doesn't contradict any of those things, and in fact it is based solely upon two of those things (honesty & integrity).

are all more important that sex. This idea that rejection is a horrible thing, sex is all important, and talking to strangers not at all fun are such black pill mentalities.

First of all, you wouldn't be approaching any woman if it wasn't for your pursuit of sex.

Second, I can't speak for others, but I never said rejection is a horrible thing.

Third, I never said talking to strangers ain't fun...and again, if your mentality is "Even if a woman ain't interested in me, I'll still talk to her for X amount of time"...if that is your idea of "fun", then hey...get your talk on.

 

[Plinco]

Mode One philosophy doesn't contradict any of those things, and in fact it is based solely upon two of those things (honesty & integrity).



First of all, you wouldn't be approaching any woman if it wasn't for your pursuit of sex.

Second, I can't speak for others, but I never said rejection is a horrible thing.

Third, I never said talking to strangers ain't fun...and again, if your mentality is "Even if a woman ain't interested in me, I'll still talk to her for X amount of time"...if that is your idea of "fun", then hey...get your talk on.

I wasn't criticizing anything you said. I just wanted to keep the topic on track and to remind everyone to check their blackpill baggage at the door

 

[Barrister]

Why would someone worry about something that they don't control?


Also,
@We_ArE_VeNOM @SW15 @Clockwerk50 @Barrister @characternote
I want to remind you and everyone else here that happiness, honesty, integrity, productiveness, independence, reason, and a sense of pride are all more important that sex. This idea that rejection is a horrible thing, sex is all important, and talking to strangers not at all fun are such black pill mentalities.

I agree with you. Not sure if you were reading what I was saying with a different interpretation than it was intended. You should always look at talking to women as playing with house money and have fun with it. First off, these interactions if they don't materialize into anything more won't matter at all. And if they do, then it's gravy.

Early 20s me would have placed sex as the ultimate goal -- but its only a part of the complete package for me anymore. I almost enjoy the hunt sometimes more than I do the sex.

 

[Clockwerk50]

Why would someone worry about something that they don't control?

You can, a little bit. To increase the success rate, the hunter should know where to hunt and who to hunt. By focusing on those who are unhappy or not preoccupied with work, school, or personal crises will naturally raise your odds, since they're more open to new connections and distractions.

 

[SW15]

I almost enjoy the hunt sometimes more than I do the sex.

I never enjoy the hunt more than the sex. I am a 'Pleasure of Sex' guy.

Thrill of the Hunt Men vs. Pleasure of Sex Men - Alpha Male 2.0

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[We_ArE_VeNOM]

I wasn't criticizing anything you said.

No need to gaslight.

You insinuated that what we'd been saying is in contrast to what you said.

I might be crazy, but I ain't no fool.

I just wanted to keep the topic on track and to remind everyone to check their blackpill baggage at the door

The topic never left track, and I'm not blackpill.

 

[Plinco]

No need to gaslight.

You insinuated that what we'd been saying is in contrast to what you said.

I might be crazy, but I ain't no fool.

hahaha you're reading too much into it man

 

[Plinco]

I made two half butted approaches today.

Two girls talking about what kind of car one of them wants to drive and what their dad says to get. I interjected with my opinion, a very short exchange of ideas ensues but doesn't go anywhere because I did not continue the conversation. When I was in a store, I saw myself in the mirror and saw the wrinkles on my face, which was a downer on my inner game (self-esteem). They weren't 100% my type anyway, but still I could have done better.

Approach #2 was comedic. Granted she was polite, but I shuddered in my opener and that just killed it.

All three of these girls were under 20 years old and were 7/10+

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

hahaha you're reading too much into it man
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Take off the "chill", and there is your rightfully owned Blue Pill.

 

[Plinco]

I just approached a group of three girls at walmart. Made a comment about what they were looking at and then my mind drew a blank. The girls got a good laugh. I smiled and walked away no problem.