"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Please read! Dilemma.

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Hi everyone. I'm wondering if you can give me some advice, because it's bothering me....

There's this girl I know. Lookswise she's a 7. I mean, I think she's attractive, but she's not as pretty as some other girls. But personality wise she's like an 11. Couldn't be better. I'm in a club with her, and I have a situation where I sometimes walk 20 minutes home with her. As you can imagine, we're starting to get friendlier.

I'm also seeing another girl, several years older than me and slightly prettier than the first girl. And dancing, there are a couple really hot girls I'm not doing too badly with.

My problem is this- If I kiss the first girl, she's the type of girl that would start getting really attached to me. She will probably wind up being my girlfriend if I don't watch out. My problem is, I don't know if I could do better than her at this point in time or not. It would definitely limit my options, that's for sure.

On the other hand, I've never kissed a girl yet, period (just being honest), so part of me wonders if you have to put in your time with a girl that's not a 9 or a 10, before you can move onto that level.

See if I don't pursue her, she'll probably be a little hurt, but also, I may be shooting myself in the foot if I can't do better.

The other thing is, if I get together with her and then break up, I'll still have to talk to her the rest of the year because of this organization.

The last piece of info is, the first girl is a couple years older than me and she'll be gone after this year, if we were to get together, it would be over by next year.

All factors considered, what would you do?

thnks.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Oh, the other thing is, there's another girl in this club, who is SUPER hot, but if I go after both feelings are bound to get hurt, there's no way to avoid it.
 

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**** em' both and become president of the club
 

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Who says you have to date either one of them?

Simply keep doing what you're doing. Raise the seduction levels and get somewhere with both of them until THEY bring up the relationship issue. If a girl likes you enough she will bring it up herself, and from there you can decide. It's pretty much whichever one beats the other to the punch. Or of course, anytime they ask just keep telling them you're not ready and you need time. All the while getting sexual with them until they either lose interest or you decide to date them.
 

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One thing that I didn't learn for a long time is that there's no such thing as a forced, natural progression to a relationship like what you've described, unless it's what both people want. Just because you or she is pre-conditioned to expect things to go a certain way, means nothing - you should steer the relationship in whatever direction you're interested in. She'll either be on board with that or not... and if not, next!

One more quick note: if you've never even kissed a girl, I recommend picking one, any one, and getting some experience under your belt for fvck's sake. Do you want to finally attract a 9 and then have no idea what to do with her once you have her?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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So, what I'm getting is: kiss first, ask questions later.

That sounds reasonable.
 

Poonani Maker

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Just do it. Take risks. Be a Man. Eh, don't Worry about women. They change from minute to minute. If you get in trouble, so be it. Makes a great story you can share with your son some day.
 

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Well they're not *****s, but you've kind of pinpointed the problem, that being that I'm more physically attracted to another girl in the organization, but I know girl number one a lot better by this point (girl no. 1 has a head start), so even now, without me going after girl no. 2, it would be awkward to do in front of girl no. 1, even more so after having put moves on girl no. 1 (in a way it's a little late for that, I've already started, just haven't kissed her yet, but hugs and touching and stuff are going on).

Girl no. 2 only showed up last week, and we smiled at each other a lot and stuff like that, but I haven't actually gotten her one on one (which would be difficult).

Worst-case scenario: I ignore girl 1 and pursue girl no. 2, but no. 2 rejects me and now no. 1 doesn't like me for openly dropping her to go after some other girl.

And I have to see these people ALL YEAR.

That's my problem here.
 

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Visual Darkness said:
Wh0res "love" every-'body', and no-one, at the same time!!!!
You are NOT a veteran, you pvssy fvck. no veteran would ever disrespect his fellow soldiers. LIAR. PVSSY. MAGGOT. Noone ever listen to this worthless fvck!
 

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in another topic you said you dated a 21 year old girl twice

OK, so I guess it's official: I go for older girls. I like them because they take better care of themselves and they have their act together. I dated a 21 year old twice, I'm seeing a 21-22 year...
how exactly are you dating these girls when you havent even kissed them?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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^^ That was a different girl. We went out to eat but I didn't kiss her. Probably a mistake, but I'm not really focused on her anymore.
 
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