thanks, I always thought this. My brother does too.
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Plate tries to make me jealous, I flip the script
- Thread starter BackInTheGame78
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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
lamath
Master Don Juan
This is a very good sign of interest from a plate but like LAraider said earlier i think its also a sign of low quality.
A quality women would wait this out being confident that you will have time for her sooner than later also trying to play the jealousy card is not something healthy ppl do.
Good plate but im pretty sure she would be hell in a ltr.
Either way well played sir
A quality women would wait this out being confident that you will have time for her sooner than later also trying to play the jealousy card is not something healthy ppl do.
Good plate but im pretty sure she would be hell in a ltr.
Either way well played sir
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
And violence escalates
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
Its "micro" violence and escalates to larger forms of violence.
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
A lot of people do these formats. They just "ignore" it and the other has some shyt the other that they don't like that they do in return. It's bad shyt.
If you guys are just talking great. But if you guys are really together, some of those trips should tone down and she should be wanting to do trips with you.
With the state of the union these days though many of that gender are encouraged to almost not "change" anything about what they was already doing. So the man gets brought in as an "accessory", like a helper to her life, but he is not that important.
As usual you guage to see if it's something you can deal with. Personally it is not compatable with the way I roll. I value a much stronger tighter connection, in my honest opinion a stronger connection makes the sex more intoxicating!
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
that's exactly right.
I don't have a halo over my head either....I hope I've always recognised when I have become passive aggressive with micro hits.
Its the hardest part of repeating the 12 steps over and over again.
Reaching farther and farther into your memory for any little time that you've wronged another and must make amends.
The most spiritual I've ever been in my life has been in the last 4 years since learning this way of living. Repeating 12 steps over and over.
I must work on myself while at the same time recognising these "microviolent" disrespect occurences both in myself and maybe more? important in others so my self esteem doesn't drop to a depressed level.
This shyt is serious stuff man.
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
Im not perfect either. I learned the hard way. Someone who force you to keep forcing your boundaries just might not be for you.
yep. big sigh.
man, sometimes I miss my ex as a person as my friend. He was selfaware.
I miss his humanity. I miss the 'us'
I just don't miss him-the boyfriend. Too much forcing my boundaries, good way to put it.
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
He was terrible for you. I wrote something to another contact thats revelant to this chat. Ill go show you the idea.
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
(My friend formerly married to a minister. His friends encouraged him to cheat and do harmful things to the marriage. They also lusted after and came onto her )
Basically we left off saying your minister husband was married to his friends. And very partial to them. Like so many people are. It just feels more "fun" that way. They dont try to be that way. Many People treat the world better than their husband or wife. Thus they don't notice things. Had your husband been properly connected he would be able to see his home boys spirits who was disrespectful of him right around him behind you. You would not have to tell him.
“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”
You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.
I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.
Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.
These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.
I like the sentence 'you would not have to tell him'
It really killed me when he said 'that's fine if you want to move to this town as long as you don't nag me for being parked in front of the bar.'
So many tells in that statement. Keep in mind I discovered that 'ex' of his is the married manager/barkeep of that bar.
He told me all I need to know what he thought of me, the us and where his priorities lie.
Most importantly, I had no idea he drank several nights there during the week. There's bedroom rooms in that bar. This is painful but I can dissect each word in that statement even how he worded it 'you want to' ' nag me' I never did such a thing. He projected someone else onto me.
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mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
He wasn't looking at it right like I'd say 50% or more. So many people treat friends and associates better than their wives or husbands. You can flip it and still enjoy the world without being deceived.
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
They were trying to get with her. Eyes of greed. She noticed, he couldn't see.
I don't know mrgoodstuff, I call bs, the men can see. Aren't they protective at all? Like that dark haired dude in the foreign video Malz1 just posted this weekend....how could the fairer guy not notice buddy fingercaressing his woman? wtf. how are you not looking over at her more regularly. She should have never gave in/been hypnotised by that salesman.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
When you cheated on your wife. Lied to her so many times you just might not be able to see those things any more. He was "with" his friends who he'd put himself in harm's way for. Many put others over their spouses.
If its the first time someone's received extra attention in their life then maybe its the novelty of it...like ceasarforone's wandering eye wife thread a few months's ago....we all said it was the first time she's been around so many men/been looked at.
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
Some folks lifestyle is that way. All their action and attention is outside the house.
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
Can you show us the thread?
I think I understand.
I tried parking on the street once or twice when I went up to his place for the weekend.
'what are you doing?' he'd say 'park in my driveway, you're my girlfriend'
Then the last argument where he was protecting the female townsfolk and female neighbours I finally brought up, he made me feel like I was less important than his neighbours.
'See!? why not just have me park on the street like I wanted to?'
It was like I admitted I knew I was just a fwb or plate or whatever.
Which might be ok but don't oscillate back in forth.
I'm not making sense to repeat and write out this experience because its my emotional, subjective experience but its similar to Amante's girlfriend accusing him of sticking up for the flirty trash she was about to 'fuvk up' in a catfight in the hospital waiting room.
I'm dying to ask Amante if this is the same girl he just wifed up because it would confirm a theory I have that men really do want you to jealously catfight other women for them. ugh!!!! I'm not doing that!
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.