Have a question here. I met this woman in California via another discussion board. We have gotten to know each other fairly well. She recently gave me her phone number on a PM message on this forum. Should I just take the intiative and call her or wait till she gives me an ok time?
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Phone number
- Thread starter leeman67
- Start date
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
If you have the number that's the greenlight to call. The only rule of thumb I have is that you need to ask someone when they answer the phone if "they have a moment to talk." You can't assume that they aren't busy doing something, or running somewhere in their car, etc. Either they have a moment or they don't. If they don't, you call again later.
It's that simple.
It's that simple.
"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
iqqi
Master Don Juan
^^^This is kind of funny, because I did PM someone my number last night, lol.
It wasn't lee!!
It wasn't lee!!
iqqi
Master Don Juan
OR WAS IT...
lol.
lol.
logic1 said:Lee
I have to ask out of curiosity, why did she pm you on this site
Was it IQQI?
Call her when you feel its right with you. You have the opening, the ball is in your court and you can play with it as you dam well please.
No, it wasnt this site. Its someone I got to knowing a little bit and found we have alot in common. She sent me a pm last weekend while I was out of town asking me to call her last Sunday Night. Unfortunately, I never got into town till just this past Weds. I explained that on my replay to her. I may have lost out. I was hesitant mainly because I didnt want to appear desperate.