You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Perfection is contextual.perseverance said:There's no such thing as perfect, therefore there cannot be such a thing as 'the perfect date' and why would you want it to be that way? Imperfection is what makes life special. Forget about making perfect, just relax and roll with the punches and above all else just have fun.
Perfect doesn't exist.ilikecharlene said:Perfection is contextual.
I would say a perfect date simply "depends".
Do both parties feel positive at the end of it? did anything go wrong? if it's a later date (say 3rd or 4th), then both parties can plan it.
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
MrNiceGuy23 said:I like the woods personally, there's a lot of nice parks near me and something about being in the forest with a woman and the moonlight shining through the darkness really turns women on.
You obviously don't go out with women much do you? Or if you do you very seldom have success to the point where they want to continue hanging out with you beyond the meal, movie, etc.BigSmooth said:MrNiceGuy23: So I had a really great time tonight. How about we take a nice stroll through the woods? I know a good place not too far from here, it's really dark and we'll have tons of privacy so no one can hear what we are doing.
Woman: *Calls 911*
Which is why I said it depends.perseverance said:Perfect doesn't exist.
A date can go really well and yet nothing materialises after it, or a date can go badly in your mind and well in her mind and BANG, you find yourself on date number two.
People who strive for perfection are destined for abject failure.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
I don't think location has ever helped me on a date. It's about drinks, me being comfortable, and letting my personality come through. And I can normally do this at bars.dbx said:think you all got caught up with the word perfect.
how about just great date ideas? better than drinks or dinner sort of thing. something they'll remember.
Woah calm down there tough guy. No sense in taking a good-humored post too seriously and start to put down the other person with insults to seem more "alpha" or "Don Juanish".MrNiceGuy23 said:You obviously don't go out with women much do you? Or if you do you very seldom have success to the point where they want to continue hanging out with you beyond the meal, movie, etc.
I said in my post there are lots of parks near me, you're obviously not going to pull over to the side of the road and just walk into some random patch of woods.
I've actually had women suggest to me that we should stop by the park at night after I took them to dinner, so the only one who thinks it's creepy seems to be you; again probably because the women you take out are so creeped out before the meal ends that they end up calling a taxi to go home because they fear for their life during the ride home.
You didn't post anything to contribute the OP's reason for starting the thread. As such, you posted solely to make a jab at what I said.BigSmooth said:Woah calm down there tough guy. No sense in taking a good-humored post too seriously and start to put down the other person with insults to seem more "alpha" or "Don Juanish".
Either you can't take some light jokes, or someone DID call 911 on you. Hit a nerve did I eh? Was it pretty awkward after she made the phone call?
MrNiceGuy23 said:You didn't post anything to contribute the OP's reason for starting the thread. As such, you posted solely to make a jab at what I said.
I'm not putting you down, you made a joke implying I'm a creep, I called you out for having no game with women because the idea of going for a late night walk with a woman seemed so baffling to you.
I don't have to seem more alpha.
Nice low-key attempt at seeming condescending and "naturally" more alpha.I don't have to seem more alpha
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Whatever you do during the date, make sure you try to kiss her at the end. Otherwise you are no different to her than her cousin.dbx said:Dates that make them weak at the knees...
Suggestions?
Aren't you in a frat? That speaks for itself.BigSmooth said:As for this...
Nice low-key attempt at seeming condescending and "naturally" more alpha.
Alas... lace 'em up bud. Time to take a lap.
~ 'Merica.
That makes no sense.MrNiceGuy23 said:Aren't you in a frat? That speaks for itself.