Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Perfection is contextual.perseverance said:There's no such thing as perfect, therefore there cannot be such a thing as 'the perfect date' and why would you want it to be that way? Imperfection is what makes life special. Forget about making perfect, just relax and roll with the punches and above all else just have fun.
Perfect doesn't exist.ilikecharlene said:Perfection is contextual.
I would say a perfect date simply "depends".
Do both parties feel positive at the end of it? did anything go wrong? if it's a later date (say 3rd or 4th), then both parties can plan it.
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
MrNiceGuy23 said:I like the woods personally, there's a lot of nice parks near me and something about being in the forest with a woman and the moonlight shining through the darkness really turns women on.
You obviously don't go out with women much do you? Or if you do you very seldom have success to the point where they want to continue hanging out with you beyond the meal, movie, etc.BigSmooth said:MrNiceGuy23: So I had a really great time tonight. How about we take a nice stroll through the woods? I know a good place not too far from here, it's really dark and we'll have tons of privacy so no one can hear what we are doing.
Woman: *Calls 911*
Which is why I said it depends.perseverance said:Perfect doesn't exist.
A date can go really well and yet nothing materialises after it, or a date can go badly in your mind and well in her mind and BANG, you find yourself on date number two.
People who strive for perfection are destined for abject failure.
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
I don't think location has ever helped me on a date. It's about drinks, me being comfortable, and letting my personality come through. And I can normally do this at bars.dbx said:think you all got caught up with the word perfect.
how about just great date ideas? better than drinks or dinner sort of thing. something they'll remember.
Woah calm down there tough guy. No sense in taking a good-humored post too seriously and start to put down the other person with insults to seem more "alpha" or "Don Juanish".MrNiceGuy23 said:You obviously don't go out with women much do you? Or if you do you very seldom have success to the point where they want to continue hanging out with you beyond the meal, movie, etc.
I said in my post there are lots of parks near me, you're obviously not going to pull over to the side of the road and just walk into some random patch of woods.
I've actually had women suggest to me that we should stop by the park at night after I took them to dinner, so the only one who thinks it's creepy seems to be you; again probably because the women you take out are so creeped out before the meal ends that they end up calling a taxi to go home because they fear for their life during the ride home.
You didn't post anything to contribute the OP's reason for starting the thread. As such, you posted solely to make a jab at what I said.BigSmooth said:Woah calm down there tough guy. No sense in taking a good-humored post too seriously and start to put down the other person with insults to seem more "alpha" or "Don Juanish".
Either you can't take some light jokes, or someone DID call 911 on you. Hit a nerve did I eh? Was it pretty awkward after she made the phone call?
MrNiceGuy23 said:You didn't post anything to contribute the OP's reason for starting the thread. As such, you posted solely to make a jab at what I said.
I'm not putting you down, you made a joke implying I'm a creep, I called you out for having no game with women because the idea of going for a late night walk with a woman seemed so baffling to you.
I don't have to seem more alpha.
Nice low-key attempt at seeming condescending and "naturally" more alpha.I don't have to seem more alpha
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
Whatever you do during the date, make sure you try to kiss her at the end. Otherwise you are no different to her than her cousin.dbx said:Dates that make them weak at the knees...
Suggestions?
Aren't you in a frat? That speaks for itself.BigSmooth said:As for this...
Nice low-key attempt at seeming condescending and "naturally" more alpha.
Alas... lace 'em up bud. Time to take a lap.
~ 'Merica.
That makes no sense.MrNiceGuy23 said:Aren't you in a frat? That speaks for itself.