Yup, cuz dudes are ALWAYS successful approaching women at the gym.. I mean, there's literally thread after thread about how easy, and natural that is right.... -________-
"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
Online dating experts, I need your help
- Thread starter bigdave17
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"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
so I'm always positive I screwed this up. I found her on plenty of fish three times today. Why is she on dating website if this is not the right time to go on dates?
But what I can't figure out is how she lost interest in 24 hours. She texted me yesterday that she was looking forward to seeing me. She seemed very interested overall - was texting me constantly
Very strange
But what I can't figure out is how she lost interest in 24 hours. She texted me yesterday that she was looking forward to seeing me. She seemed very interested overall - was texting me constantly
Very strange
Here's what happened. She asked me about working out and I said I'm big time into it and went into a little detail. She then told me she is currently the heaviest she has ever been but is trying hard to cut weight - she's on a huge calorie restricted diet. She told me she's trying hard to lose weight. Then we had a very big discussion about losing weight and I just gave her a ton of advice as I went into detail of how I lost weight myself (I've cut probably 80 lbs in last 10 years). I was very positive and supportive. She said "I'm not fat though I promise" - and I said "it's cool, I'm sure you're beautiful in real life". I never said anything judgmental or negative
outside of that, all our conversation was very straight forward. Just getting to know each other
You would of seen her on POF three times today even if you HAD went on the date. Did you stay off POF, just because you were talking to her?.. and she said now's not the time to go on dates, she didn't say I don't want to talk to anyone anymore
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
Dont approach babes In the gym. Pretty simple.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
I see tons of hot latinas at my gym
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
Let them choose
Igetit!
Moderator
Did you REALLY say that to her?
Dude...you're oblivious. You can't see YOURSELF. That woman did herself A HUGE favor by staying away from you.
Other people were saying something like this would happen,but I thought it'd at least be after a date or two. People kept trying to warn you,but you're too blind and dense to listen.....you were warned ALL THROUGHOUT this thread. I noticed a red flag in YOUR behavior,in the way you kept describing how you and this girl interacted.....there was one thing you kept saying over and over again...you said it 3 times in a row,then said it again later on....
You kept going on about how you and this chick would get along like "best friends"...said it over and over again. First time you said it,I kinda paused for a second.....then just let it go on. Second time,I was like,"Uh oh....:,then the third time I was like,"Oh sh1t". I personally never said anything cause I learned long ago talking to you is pointless,but someone here did bring up. You of course brushed it aside and went along your merry way.....not seeing THE CLIFF out in front of you that you were headed straight towards.
Dude...you are BLIND. I've never seen anyone as blind as you. And the irony is,what you are blind to,the ENTIRE FORUM SEES.
You want to know if you somehow blew the potential date with this girl? Yeah....I say yes you did.
You wanna know how? Simple.... You blew it by simply being YOURSELF. It's one thing to be blind. You are a blind FOOL.
And even now.....I bet you have NO IDEA what you did that caused this to fall apart. I know you don't...it's cause you're blind. You ignore EVERY ATTEMPT people try in order to help you see.
It's just mindboggling to see this entire forum offer and try to push on you glasses,jugs,buckets,and containers full of water...yet you stand in the midst of everyone dying of thirst.
You made a thread today,(I guess I should specify which one,since you make so many),called "I'm realizing 2 huge problems within myself". If you want to know what likely happened here,go back and read your OWN thread...your OWN words. Your 1st post was two paragraphs...you need to look at the second. You seem to think that you.....the REAL you...the guy who's here on this forum...that you can somehow hide that "Dave" from women and put up this masculine facade and the chicks won't notice....but the real you keeps leaking out.
No way you should be this clueless about to hit 30.
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
taiyuu_otoko
Master Don Juan
She must have found out that you were posting her picture in a men's forum and talking about her like a future wife.
Little bit of a creep factor.
lamath
Master Don Juan
Idk but there is something with Dave
I asked him before but i think he is prob a high functioning autism
Something in the way he dont get the subtle stuff or joke ppl make.
Im am hoping things work out for him but he really need to educate himself and start thinking from the other people perspective.
I asked him before but i think he is prob a high functioning autism
Something in the way he dont get the subtle stuff or joke ppl make.
Im am hoping things work out for him but he really need to educate himself and start thinking from the other people perspective.
May be he does have autism or some psychological issue. I'm seriously contemplating putting him on my ignore list (my first!) because I'm simply exhausted with all his drama here and yet there has been no change in him whatsoever. There's really nothing more to say or do like @Igetit! said. If I were a mod I'd take away his 'new thread' creating privileges.
lamath
Master Don Juan
i dont think i ever saw him post in a thread he didnt create.
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
that message was a hail mary after the fact. It was already dead by then so it didn't matter
the rest of our messages were very routine for the most part. The only thing I regret was getting into a big discussion about diet and training because I fear I made her feel insecure... but she herself volunteered the info about being overweight and wanting to get into shape. Otherwise we talked about movies, TV shows, food, work, family, very normal stuff. I showed interest when it was natural after she showed it. I didn't go all emotional gaga over her. I deleted all the messages already but I almost wish I didn't. You guys could see all my messages were very "normal".
the last woman I went out with was this beautiful 35 year old woman. We went out for 2 months, every date was very smooth and she was very heavily into me. I stopped seeing her cause she was a single mom
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I see his point
but he thinks that all our interactions were like that. None of our interactions were like that. I know damn well that showing too much interest/eagerness makes you look very soft and weak as a male
I mostly only showed interest after she showed it first
lamath
Master Don Juan
good for you
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.