"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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sazc

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The weird thing is she texted me 18 hours ago that she was very excited to see me. What changes in a day?
People get cold feet, people only wanted the attention, she's not the girl in the picture, she's insecure
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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she said "now is not the time to go on dates" and I find she is active again browsing plenty of fish - just now she is logged online


Why don't women tell the truth? It's like I'm not a retard, I smell bullsh*t


Why message me for a week, make plans and cancel last second like a A**hole?
this is why you're supposed to get her comfortable and make the date for coffee asap and then go fairly quiet, checking in once or so
 

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Dave, take a breath. You are being Dave. That will not work with the type of woman you think you deserve. Hate to tell you, but you don't deserve squat. Remember OLD is a woman's playground. They make the selections. Doesn't have to be logical. It is the female prerogative, which they exercise without thought or looking back. You have been relegated to her "oh him" file. No matter how special you may think you are, top .0001 percent in looks, money, personality, ect take this rejection as a reality check! If you were a power lifter it would be like you are doing a first bench of 600 lbs without warm up. You will hurt yourself, and that's what you continue to do by living in a fantasy land that supports your fragile ego. Stop it! Get some experiences under your belt with women whom you may think are subpar. Success builds success! If I were to venture a guess of why she flaked, it was that your neediness and desperation reeked in your texts. Women will bolt if they smell desperation. She did, and she did. Lick your wounded ego, learn from it, and start dealing in the real world with real women, not that fantasy woman you imagine you deserve. Sorry, but it just doesn't work that way in the real world.
desperation? she texted me 2 or 3 times that she was excited to see me. I never said anything about being excited to see her, I totally played it cool. The only time I showed interest was right after she showed it first.


Experiences with garbage doesn't help me whatsoever. I've been with 12-15 women way below my league, didn't help me. Being with another 50 of the garbage won't help me either
 

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this is why you're supposed to get her comfortable and make the date for coffee asap and then go fairly quiet, checking in once or so
holy fk finding someone who is attractive and compatible on these dating sites is so hard. By compatible, I mean I'm not dating

- vegans
- feminists
- hardcore liberals
- tattoo/piercing freaks
- women who can't spell properly
- religious broads

none of that garbage. I want an attractive woman with a decent body who is not a wackjob
 
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"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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I'm going to hire a professional photographer in next few weeks, I need to get somebody to take some great pics of myself that show a realistic image of how I look in real life.

Do you guys that will make any real difference?
 

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...and we're back to our baby Huey again.

Seriously dude, read what Spinich said until it sinks in. If you think you know all this so well then why are you here b*tching and moaning every day?
 

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I'm going to hire a professional photographer in next few weeks, I need to get somebody to take some great pics of myself that show a realistic image of how I look in real life.

Do you guys that will make any real difference?
This is an excellent idea. I've had friends and acquaintances do this and it makes a significant difference. Ask to see their portfolio and definitely shop and compare. Heck I'm thinking about doing this if I create an online dating account.
 

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This is an excellent idea. I've had friends and acquaintances do this and it makes a significant difference. Ask to see their portfolio and definitely shop and compare. Heck I'm thinking about doing this if I create an online dating account.
how big of a difference?

Did they manage to get hotties online?

For me, what makes it so difficult, is to trying to find a good looking woman I'm compatible with. I just saw a hot chick on match.com...read her profile, ***** has 4 dogs. Jesus christ, no thanks
 

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@bigdave17 first of all she doesnt know you at all so dont think it was anyhing you did, second of all, you need to not get ahead of yourself in these sitautions, ever again
He killed his self worrying about they got along great on a million subjects. Worrying about haveing a baby. Worry about fvcking her like a normal guy and the world will open up.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Damn wth... I was ready to hear all about the date too lol
 

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Man I'm starting to believe you have deeper psychological issues; all your recent posts above are so knee-jerk, like a kid having a tantrum. My 12yo doesn't even act that way.
 

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Man I'm starting to believe you have deeper psychological issues; all your recent posts above are so knee-jerk, like a kid having a tantrum. My 12yo doesn't even act that way.
I have to look at the current situation and realize this is 100% my fault

I've put very minimal effort into dating for 29 years and received very minimal results. Now I'm finally willing to put in some effort for it and I want results ASAP, life doesn't work that way

I'm going to continue to cut weight hard, take some professional pics and hopefully approach some women in real life. I need to approach women at my gym. That seems to be my best bet
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Never tried online dating as never believed into it. Does it works tho?
 

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I texted her "I hope I didn't scare you off by the gym talk. You don't have to be perfect to be attractive for me"
Dude sends me a text like this? I know I'm running this show, b1tch!
 

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I want results ASAP, life doesn't work that way
You're fairly accurate about your assessment there but let's not forget you've been here since Oct 2017 yet you've learned nothing, I mean zero! The mistakes you made in just a couple of text exchanges that you've posted here tells me you're not even here to learn because you have this attitude that boils down to:

1. I know it all
2. I'm entitled to a hottie
3. I want quick, no effort solutions

...and with that my friend, it'll be 2027 and you'll still be asking posting the same crap. So my sincerest advice for you is to not post anything and just observe and learn. Meanwhile, get a good shrink, I'm not kidding at all. I really feel you need one. Sure work on your body and pics but that's not the big problem Dave. It's your attitude.
 
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Dude sends me a text like this? I know I'm running this show, b1tch!
I seriously cringed when I saw that (but didn't want to call him out as I didn't want to read about a suicide in the papers) but we can only guess what other gems were exchanged over the last week for her to realize this will be a dead end why waste time. Even if that's not the reason he has so much to improve but he just won't because he's stubborn af.
 

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Dave are you listening. Truth being spoken. Swallow your ego and learn!!
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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