zekko
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"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Online dating experts, I need your help
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"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
this girl liked me today - she's exactly my type physically but her profile is so weird
"420 friendly
Do not msg me if your just looking to chat not here for pen pals I’m here to meet so if your not capable of planning a date don’t msg me
I DONT DRINK looking for someone different then the rest let’s go get facials together let’s smoke a blunt not looking for boring guys that just want to grab dinner be creative and stand out from the rest
Instagram- miss_bugadi "
is this even worth messaging? Sounds like an annoying *****
What do you guys say once you're matched with a girl? Just have normal conversation? I feel like anything I want to say sounds so boring. I don't have a creative imagination
"420 friendly
Do not msg me if your just looking to chat not here for pen pals I’m here to meet so if your not capable of planning a date don’t msg me
I DONT DRINK looking for someone different then the rest let’s go get facials together let’s smoke a blunt not looking for boring guys that just want to grab dinner be creative and stand out from the rest
Instagram- miss_bugadi "
is this even worth messaging? Sounds like an annoying *****
What do you guys say once you're matched with a girl? Just have normal conversation? I feel like anything I want to say sounds so boring. I don't have a creative imagination
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Mike32ct
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Glasses are hot.
why she liked me then?
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
I smoke once in a while but not really
holy ****ing god it is hard to find women on there who are classy, normal, not hippies, not weird vegan bitches, not trashy *****s, not single moms or chubby, etc...
sazc
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Welcome to online dating!
On my end they tend to be high school educated, single dad's, who are, financial zeros, can't drive a conversation to save their lives, and don't know what a gym is...and they all believe that are the SH1T !!
It ain't pretty online and I don't think you are built for it
If you use it as a complement instead of relying on it, its not as bad
why can't I get anybody to read my messages? I'm ok if they read it but ignore it but all my messges are still undelivered status showing
sazc
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I'm not sure you're ready for the anxiety that OLD brings.
Why haven't they read your messages?
maybe they don't check their account anymore? Maybe they only check their account once a week? Maybe they only check their account once a day? Maybe they're so busy with their families on the holiday they're not checking their online dating?
There's one of a thousand reasons they aren't reading your message, you need to not care and move on. These are strangers, they don't know you. Ehat they do, or don't do, shouldn't impact you.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
literally none of my messages are read
i understand if they read the messages but don't like me, that's fine but none of them are even read
You're going to run across several girls who you're attracted to but may not match your lifestyle. You should ask yourself if you're willing to compromise or if you should move on. This one should've been an easy no unless you're willing to blaze up with her.
As for no one reading your messages, don't sweat it. Like Sazc stated, there are numerous reasons they won't read or reply. If you let these things get to you, you'll end up anxious or miserable. Play the numbers game, message when you have some free time and keep an eye on it but don't let it rule you. It's good you're finally trying out OLD now calm down and keep at it.
guru1000
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This is true. Guru has 99% attractiveness and 90%+ trust/intelligence on all his pics. This is why he gets all the 8s and 9s of all ages.
Dave, as long as this guy Guru is in the picture, he's going to steal all your women. It's time to eliminate him.
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
where do 8s and 9s even exist on dating sites? i think hottest female I've seen is a 7.5
mrgoodstuff
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Bigdave17 not even in a position to worry about relationships
is this just a NYC thing? I live 45 minutes from Chicago and the hottest I've seen online is maybe a 7.5
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.