"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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this girl liked me today - she's exactly my type physically but her profile is so weird


"420 friendly
Do not msg me if your just looking to chat not here for pen pals I’m here to meet so if your not capable of planning a date don’t msg me
I DONT DRINK looking for someone different then the rest let’s go get facials together let’s smoke a blunt not looking for boring guys that just want to grab dinner be creative and stand out from the rest

Instagram- miss_bugadi "



is this even worth messaging? Sounds like an annoying *****


What do you guys say once you're matched with a girl? Just have normal conversation? I feel like anything I want to say sounds so boring. I don't have a creative imagination
 

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"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Are you planning on getting high with her and making pot part of your life?
 

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Are you planning on getting high with her and making pot part of your life?
I smoke once in a while but not really

holy ****ing god it is hard to find women on there who are classy, normal, not hippies, not weird vegan bitches, not trashy *****s, not single moms or chubby, etc...
 

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I smoke once in a while but not really

holy ****ing god it is hard to find women on there who are classy, normal, not hippies, not weird vegan bitches, not trashy *****s, not single moms or chubby, etc...
Welcome to online dating!

On my end they tend to be high school educated, single dad's, who are, financial zeros, can't drive a conversation to save their lives, and don't know what a gym is...and they all believe that are the SH1T !!

It ain't pretty online and I don't think you are built for it
 

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Welcome to online dating!

On my end they tend to be high school educated, single dad's, who are, financial zeros, can't drive a conversation to save their lives, and don't know what a gym is...and they all believe that are the SH1T !!

It ain't pretty online and I don't think you are built for it
If you use it as a complement instead of relying on it, its not as bad

why can't I get anybody to read my messages? I'm ok if they read it but ignore it but all my messges are still undelivered status showing
 

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If you use it as a complement instead of relying on it, its not as bad

why can't I get anybody to read my messages? I'm ok if they read it but ignore it but all my messges are still undelivered status showing
I'm not sure you're ready for the anxiety that OLD brings.

Why haven't they read your messages?

maybe they don't check their account anymore? Maybe they only check their account once a week? Maybe they only check their account once a day? Maybe they're so busy with their families on the holiday they're not checking their online dating?

There's one of a thousand reasons they aren't reading your message, you need to not care and move on. These are strangers, they don't know you. Ehat they do, or don't do, shouldn't impact you.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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I'm not sure you're ready for the anxiety that OLD brings.

Why haven't they read your messages?

maybe they don't check their account anymore? Maybe they only check their account once a week? Maybe they only check their account once a day? Maybe they're so busy with their families on the holiday they're not checking their online dating?

There's one of a thousand reasons they aren't reading your message, you need to not care and move on. These are strangers, they don't know you. Ehat they do, or don't do, shouldn't impact you.
literally none of my messages are read

i understand if they read the messages but don't like me, that's fine but none of them are even read
 

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Because your one of the 350 ++ likes she randomly put out there. That's why she even responded to you.
 

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OLD is not for people who have anxiety issues
 

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this girl liked me today - she's exactly my type physically but her profile is so weird


"420 friendly
Do not msg me if your just looking to chat not here for pen pals I’m here to meet so if your not capable of planning a date don’t msg me
I DONT DRINK looking for someone different then the rest let’s go get facials together let’s smoke a blunt not looking for boring guys that just want to grab dinner be creative and stand out from the rest

Instagram- miss_bugadi "



is this even worth messaging? Sounds like an annoying *****


What do you guys say once you're matched with a girl? Just have normal conversation? I feel like anything I want to say sounds so boring. I don't have a creative imagination
You're going to run across several girls who you're attracted to but may not match your lifestyle. You should ask yourself if you're willing to compromise or if you should move on. This one should've been an easy no unless you're willing to blaze up with her.

As for no one reading your messages, don't sweat it. Like Sazc stated, there are numerous reasons they won't read or reply. If you let these things get to you, you'll end up anxious or miserable. Play the numbers game, message when you have some free time and keep an eye on it but don't let it rule you. It's good you're finally trying out OLD now calm down and keep at it.
 

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If you want 8's & 9's, it would be optimal using a photo that ranks 90%+ in attraction and 70%+ in the other features.
This is true. Guru has 99% attractiveness and 90%+ trust/intelligence on all his pics. This is why he gets all the 8s and 9s of all ages.

Dave, as long as this guy Guru is in the picture, he's going to steal all your women. It's time to eliminate him.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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This is true. Guru has 99% attractiveness and 90%+ trust/intelligence on all his pics. This is why he gets all the 8s and 9s of all ages.

Dave, as long as this guy Guru is in the picture, he's going to steal all your women. It's time to eliminate him.
where do 8s and 9s even exist on dating sites? i think hottest female I've seen is a 7.5
 

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Don't make me post pics of my 10s again. Don't make me do it to you.

24 yo model is awaiting. Have a good night
 

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Don't make me post pics of my 10s again. Don't make me do it to you.

24 yo model is awaiting. Have a good night

is this just a NYC thing? I live 45 minutes from Chicago and the hottest I've seen online is maybe a 7.5
 

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I finally got a couple conversations going - no surprise, both are brown girls, which I'm totally cool with

One is really cute but I'm afraid she's muslim
other one is christian but she's not that cute
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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