"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Online dating = desperation
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
LimaBean
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I suppose it could be argued where the aforementioned is not true. However, the experience I've had with it seems to agree with the title. I will say, the only positive I've really seen from online dating - is the ability to effectively woo women without actually being around them. My text game manifested itself into near poetry before I finally gave up the online scene.
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I think it depends on what a person is looking for and expectations.
When I dabble in OLD, I am more "sightseeing". The expectations are ridiculously low. If I were out on a run and came across a dollar bill laying on the ground I would pick it up. I wasnt expecting to find money when I went out for the run but I am not going to pass by the chance to spend minimal effort to get it.
Thats how I perceive OLD. It can be good for a plate here and there.
When I dabble in OLD, I am more "sightseeing". The expectations are ridiculously low. If I were out on a run and came across a dollar bill laying on the ground I would pick it up. I wasnt expecting to find money when I went out for the run but I am not going to pass by the chance to spend minimal effort to get it.
Thats how I perceive OLD. It can be good for a plate here and there.
wifehunter
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Yeah...it may be only good for 'target practice'.
"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
Glassguy
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Thats silly thinking. As a good looking man, why wouldnt a person use all available platforms to find plates?
This is what people used to think in the 90s, and early 2000's. Now post 2010...it's become widely accepted.
It's kind of wash really. Less options offline, but you do better...MORE options online because you get to meet people you otherwise wouldn't meet in real life.
The desperation comes in is when you start to see the same women, no matter how attractive physically...on the same sites through the years...and they are showing that little green dot by their name showing they are active...daily.
Some of the same women are, sadly, across all dating platforms. So "Sexy Suzy" of Kalamazoo Mich. will be on Match., POF, OK Cupid, and other known sites across the board....and of course, still chronically single.
I've heard women say they would be on sites for month, and never meet one person face-to-face because they've so far never found anyone that would warrant meeting in person.
A few of them are spinsters, 40+ child-free types that have never been married. This kind of makes sense as no one will ever be good enough...at least in their town. They probably spend their Sat nights sipping wine and browsing the sites.
Some of the same women are, sadly, across all dating platforms. So "Sexy Suzy" of Kalamazoo Mich. will be on Match., POF, OK Cupid, and other known sites across the board....and of course, still chronically single.
I've heard women say they would be on sites for month, and never meet one person face-to-face because they've so far never found anyone that would warrant meeting in person.
A few of them are spinsters, 40+ child-free types that have never been married. This kind of makes sense as no one will ever be good enough...at least in their town. They probably spend their Sat nights sipping wine and browsing the sites.
Right, also...you don't get to demonstrate your social abilities in person. It's like, "He's under 6 feet, NEXT..." and it's over. In person, you approach and they are afforded the opportunity to stand there and get to know you.
"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
DreamAgain
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Unless you have awesome pictures, I've found that the time-invested/reward ratio is simply not worth it.
Plus, I kind of felt like a loser when I tried it, like I was incapable of getting anything in real life. This is just my personal feeling and its illogical, but nevertheless I couldn't shake it.
Plus, I kind of felt like a loser when I tried it, like I was incapable of getting anything in real life. This is just my personal feeling and its illogical, but nevertheless I couldn't shake it.
Where I live, its the only way I meet women. Rural areas at age 35 are harder to meet women, and if you do, they let themselves go and have kids. It is a good way to get outside of ones social circle, especially as ones group tends to be busier with their significant others. But my opinion is this - overall women on tinder and other sites aren't very good quality. It takes a lot of time to meet the worthwhile ones.
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.