"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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I suppose it could be argued where the aforementioned is not true. However, the experience I've had with it seems to agree with the title. I will say, the only positive I've really seen from online dating - is the ability to effectively woo women without actually being around them. My text game manifested itself into near poetry before I finally gave up the online scene.
 

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I think it depends on what a person is looking for and expectations.

When I dabble in OLD, I am more "sightseeing". The expectations are ridiculously low. If I were out on a run and came across a dollar bill laying on the ground I would pick it up. I wasnt expecting to find money when I went out for the run but I am not going to pass by the chance to spend minimal effort to get it.

Thats how I perceive OLD. It can be good for a plate here and there.
 

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I will add that a desperate guy will be desperate no matter what the platform. OLD, nightclub/bar scene, etc.

The frame should never change.
 

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I suppose it could be argued where the aforementioned is not true. However, the experience I've had with it seems to agree with the title. I will say, the only positive I've really seen from online dating - is the ability to effectively woo women without actually being around them. My text game manifested itself into near poetry before I finally gave up the online scene.
Yeah...it may be only good for 'target practice'.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Its a crutch for good looking or niche demand men(ethnicity, money, education). The good looking men would do much better without it though.
Thats silly thinking. As a good looking man, why wouldnt a person use all available platforms to find plates?
 

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Because you can do better offline, simple.
It's kind of wash really. Less options offline, but you do better...MORE options online because you get to meet people you otherwise wouldn't meet in real life.
 

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The desperation comes in is when you start to see the same women, no matter how attractive physically...on the same sites through the years...and they are showing that little green dot by their name showing they are active...daily.

Some of the same women are, sadly, across all dating platforms. So "Sexy Suzy" of Kalamazoo Mich. will be on Match., POF, OK Cupid, and other known sites across the board....and of course, still chronically single.

I've heard women say they would be on sites for month, and never meet one person face-to-face because they've so far never found anyone that would warrant meeting in person.

A few of them are spinsters, 40+ child-free types that have never been married. This kind of makes sense as no one will ever be good enough...at least in their town. They probably spend their Sat nights sipping wine and browsing the sites.
 

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the options online are not as good either
Right, also...you don't get to demonstrate your social abilities in person. It's like, "He's under 6 feet, NEXT..." and it's over. In person, you approach and they are afforded the opportunity to stand there and get to know you. :)
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Desperation? NO....Different strokes for different folks.
 

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Fat single moms are everyone's backup when they aren't getting laid
 

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Online dating is ok training wheels. As long as you don't take it seriously. And as long as once you've had the practice you take it back to real.
 

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Unless you have awesome pictures, I've found that the time-invested/reward ratio is simply not worth it.

Plus, I kind of felt like a loser when I tried it, like I was incapable of getting anything in real life. This is just my personal feeling and its illogical, but nevertheless I couldn't shake it.
 

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Where I live, its the only way I meet women. Rural areas at age 35 are harder to meet women, and if you do, they let themselves go and have kids. It is a good way to get outside of ones social circle, especially as ones group tends to be busier with their significant others. But my opinion is this - overall women on tinder and other sites aren't very good quality. It takes a lot of time to meet the worthwhile ones.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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