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Once momentum is broken, it's very difficult to get back. Just learn from this and stop following toxic advice to act aloof and ignore. Especially when things are going well! If SHE started pulling back and acting aloof first, then you can pull back. But not when things are going great, there is enthusiasm from both of you and a second date scheduled. Makes no sense.
 

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It gets tricky if there's no imminent meetup. I can keep her interested usually, but it's work if she's not super-high interest
The only way to keep a girls interest is the line of women. Other puzzy. Vaugly or real threat.
You can wrap all red pill into this. MMG and all of it.
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Very valuable thread.
Two strategies were promoted.
1. I am doing me, I go for what I want, I am in as long as I get what I want, I'm Ok with who I am and once I have very strong indications I don't get appreciated or get what I want I'm out.
2. I make her feel seen, I change my views and actions in accordance with what I assume she will like and I let her run strategy 1.

I think it's pretty obvious which of these two is preferable.
Only way to good relationship is man and woman running strategy 1 and matching.
 

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Fughhhhhh . Your probably right. Sooooo, what now? I haven’t chatted with her all day. She’s going out supposedly with work girlfriends tonight. I’m trying to figure out what to do or say. I’m confused And need help.
Good outcome. You called it a halt before it was too late. If you'd continued without applying the advice here, you'd continued the frame you supplied to her from the first date, which probably was submissive. Now it's important to see she is not interested enough to prioritize a date with you over a standard get-together with her colleagues.
 

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I think alot of these issues we run into with women were discussed back in the day as “buying temperature” which is an old sales term i believe

Essentially everything we do is to increase their buying temperature to the point they will have sex with us.

aggressively texting all the time makes us look needy… that most certainly decreases her buying temperature . Not texting enough may allow their buying temperature time to cool off also. Not sure where the balance is and it could likely depend on the woman
 

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Once momentum is broken, it's very difficult to get back. Just learn from this and stop following toxic advice to act aloof and ignore. Especially when things are going well! If SHE started pulling back and acting aloof first, then you can pull back. But not when things are going great, there is enthusiasm from both of you and a second date scheduled. Makes no sense.
Gotcha. But try some
I think alot of these issues we run into with women were discussed back in the day as “buying temperature” which is an old sales term i believe

Essentially everything we do is to increase their buying temperature to the point they will have sex with us.

aggressively texting all the time makes us look needy… that most certainly decreases her buying temperature . Not texting enough may allow their buying temperature time to cool off also. Not sure where the balance is and it could likely depend on the woman
It does. And after some care posts placed at the right time of and I was able to get back on track and continue our bantering and then wished her a good night very early as she went out to dinner with friends.
Meanwhile I do have a FWB I saw Wednesday night and played it right with another gal I’ve been banging for a few weeks who got all pushy with me and I called her on that, ignored her til she apologized and now I have her at my beckoned whim. My improvement since last fall when I joined this forum had been quite encouraging and I appreciate all the help of you fellow Don’s.
 

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Gotcha. But try some

It does. And after some care posts placed at the right time of and I was able to get back on track and continue our bantering and then wished her a good night very early as she went out to dinner with friends.
Meanwhile I do have a FWB I saw Wednesday night and played it right with another gal I’ve been banging for a few weeks who got all pushy with me and I called her on that, ignored her til she apologized and now I have her at my beckoned whim. My improvement since last fall when I joined this forum had been quite encouraging and I appreciate all the help of you fellow Don’s.
Let me guess, a little comforting the girl about her family situation the other day?
 

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Let me guess, a little comforting the girl about her family situation the other day?
She did have her daughter move back in and in our date last night she apologized a few times for being ‘grumpy’ last week. By playing it cool I was able to work past those issues and we had a great date, learned more about each other, got closer and had another nice kiss before the night got too late. I did put the feelers out on having another date and she was enthused. This is a slow process with this amazingly hot woman that I’m enjoying and although I’ve received great advice here I’m continuing to move forward at a pace that works for both of us.
 

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She did have her daughter move back in and in our date last night she apologized a few times for being ‘grumpy’ last week. By playing it cool I was able to work past those issues and we had a great date, learned more about each other, got closer and had another nice kiss before the night got too late. I did put the feelers out on having another date and she was enthused. This is a slow process with this amazingly hot woman that I’m enjoying and although I’ve received great advice here I’m continuing to move forward at a pace that works for both of us.
Good job getting back on track. My bad if it has been mentioned in the thread, but how did you meet her?
 
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