"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Old **** test...how would you have responded?

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Just been thinking about something my last gf said and wondered how you guys would have responded.

Was texting with her late one night and she was saying how she was getting all horny telling me how she could';t wait for me to come over the next day and I said 'Why don't you get your toy out and have a play, of course it won't be as good as having me there ;)' she replies with 'lol yea right' :/
Really p1ssed me off tbh and I responded in a bit of an ACFish way by saying 'ouch now that hurts' then she said something like she was only joking...I mean wtf should you expect such a neg off your gf or am I right in thinking that was below the belt even though I know she was joking.

Anyway, how would you guys have responded to that?
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Something came up, youre busy the next day. Tell her she can use the toy tomorrow too
 
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SpazzAttackk said:
Something came up, youre busy the next day. Tell her she can use the toy tomorrow too
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But if I had not responded and cancelled straight after she said it surely that would have shown that it affected me. I tried to play it off jokingly so as to not seem too bothered by it as I didn't want to let her see that she'd got to me.
 
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I would of said:

"Damn, you must have one of those 14" Satisfiers! I may come over just for THAT show!"
 
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She'd already showed me it before. Was probably 8 inches with a little bend at the top nothing amazing.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Did she mean, "yeah, right, why would I use that when I have you coming over tomorrow"?
 
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Did she mean, "yeah, right, why would I use that when I have you coming over tomorrow"?
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No she was saying that her vibrator was better than me...I said 'use your toy for now, it won't be as good but it'll tide you over until tomorrow' or something and she said 'lol yea right' as in I was no match for it.
 
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I would have laughed it off. Then the next day, fvck the sh!t out of her like it was the last time you would ever fvck her. She'd forget about the vibrator.
 
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Neon Owl said:
No she was saying that her vibrator was better than me...I said 'use your toy for now, it won't be as good but it'll tide you over until tomorrow' or something and she said 'lol yea right' as in I was no match for it.
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And are you absolutely sure that's what she meant? 100% sure? Texting leads to many, many miscommunications, I've found.
 
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And are you absolutely sure that's what she meant? 100% sure? Texting leads to many, many miscommunications, I've found.
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Yes 100% sure. I know her very well. She loved playing little games and being cheeky with me all the time. Lots of sh1t tests especially in the last few months of the relationship which is when this happened.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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i don't see what the big deal is...i don't think she actually mean't it...just a joke...i neg people i am close with as well but am always just totally joking..no harm intended...you are being a little sensitive.....should have just laughed and said i feel the same way about my right hand sometimes...

it's really not a big deal...
 
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zinc4 said:
i don't see what the big deal is...i don't think she actually mean't it...just a joke...i neg people i am close with as well but am always just totally joking..no harm intended...you are being a little sensitive.....should have just laughed and said i feel the same way about my right hand sometimes...

it's really not a big deal...
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Yea I guess you're right but at the time she was my first ever gf and first girl I'd slept with so it hit me pretty hard even though I knew it was a joke.
 
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many women cant really cvm without one. would you reject her because she needs glasses in order to see properly? Do you think that she CHOSE to be half blind, or chose to have sexual problems? of course not. So why hold either one against her, hmmm?
 
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