"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Old member back here after a long break

Guitar_Whizz

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Hello guys, I joined these forums back in 2002, and I used to post here all the time. After 2005 I joined a lair for the north of England (very good site btw) and sort of lost touch with sosuave.com. In 2006 I got really involved with canned routines, techniques etc etc.

I'm glad to say that after a period away from here, I'm back! And I love this site because the DJ philosophy is based on a mindset and natural game, rather than techniques and canned material.

So hello to all newbies, and is there anyone here from 2002/2003/2004/2005 era?

I have had a bad run in my game lately and so I need some help and motivation from you guys, but I'm determined to sort things out.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Guitar_Whizz said:
...I'm glad to say that after a period away from here, I'm back! And I love this site because the DJ philosophy is based on a mindset and natural game, rather than techniques and canned material....
Dude!!! You really need to write a post on how relying heavily on canned material effects your game!
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Guitar_Whizz

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
Dude!!! You really need to write a post on how relying heavily on canned material effects your game!
Yeah good idea, I will do that soon!
 

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penkitten said:
im ok
how are you?
wth you been??
I'm fine. I've been mostly posting on a seduction lair site for the north of England (northenglandlair.com) so not really been here much. But I came to realise what a gem sosuave.com is, and I'm glad to say I'm back.

I absolutely hate canned game. Mystery Method, etc etc is all complete junk.

I'm going to write a post on how canned material affected my game soon, watch this space.

You're from the UK aren't you? Or am I mistaken? And you're a female member too if I remember rightly - your insights into seduction were very enlightening, I have lots of things I'd like to talk to you about related to dating/meeting women, I'd really appreciate your insights.
 

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Guitar_Whizz said:
I'm fine. I've been mostly posting on a seduction lair site for the north of England (northenglandlair.com) so not really been here much. But I came to realise what a gem sosuave.com is, and I'm glad to say I'm back.

I absolutely hate canned game. Mystery Method, etc etc is all complete junk.

I'm going to write a post on how canned material affected my game soon, watch this space.

You're from the UK aren't you? Or am I mistaken? And you're a female member too if I remember rightly - your insights into seduction were very enlightening, I have lots of things I'd like to talk to you about related to dating/meeting women, I'd really appreciate your insights.
glad to see you back.
i'll watch for that post.
yes, i am a female, but im from kentucky in the usa.
looking forward to hearing back from you about your recent adventures.
 
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I'm the "SAY 'NO' TO HOS" dude - AKA PuertoRican_Lover!
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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