Old Age advice vs New Age advice

[Tilex]

Most old age advice in seduction is considered old fashion and useless these days.
Old age advice = The years after Mystery Method became popular.
This advice was most useful pre-Recession & pre-Covid.

One old age advice shared by everyone in particular was:
What to say if she has a boyfriend?
The Mystery Method heavily emphasized this as a sh!t test. If you can get past the sh!t test, you win her over. [Insert witty line about her bf problems]

The new age advice post-Covid completely counters this advice. What to say if she has a boyfriend?
Answer: If she puts up a wall or gives any reason to reject you, move on. You're completely wasting your time. Girls that are attracted to you make it really easy for you and have no need to c0ckblock you or put up a wall.

The problem with the seduction community is older people still giving out old age advice, which is outdated & irrelevant these days.
If think about and examine the information you are reading, most of the New Age advice counters almost all of the Old Age advice.

This criticism is not about sosuave, it's an observation about the seduction community as a whole.

 

[Barrister]

In fairness, the new advice example you give has been around even pre-Covid. The play on words used be "on to the next" if one didn't work out for you and not continue to waste your time. I realize you are mentioning it specifically more in the "I have a boyfriend" situation, but that advice has been around for a long time -- here and in the greater seduction community.

Most of the "old school advice" is still on point. I think where it falls a little short is just in its best application when it comes to OLD and social media, which have exploded since Rollo wrote The Rational Male, etc. Doesn't mean it isn't still true, just that dating has become especially warped by technology much more so than even back in 2015. Women's options are so ridiculous and men are even thirstier than they were. Doesn't make the advice outdated or obsolete. In fact, probably the opposite.

 

[The Duke]

Men and women just didn't change! lol. Women are still using the old "I have a boyfriend" trick hoping you will go away. I never paid much attention to the self proclaimed guru's like Mystery anyways but it certainly can be a schitt test. Typically its a girl telling you she is not interested and you should go away.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

Men and women just didn't change! lol. Women are still using the old "I have a boyfriend" trick hoping you will go away. I never paid much attention to the self proclaimed guru's like Mystery anyways but it certainly can be a schitt test. Typically its a girl telling you she is not interested and you should go away.

I would argue that women did indeed change, they were more open to casual dating pre-covid. Overall, defenses are higher now.

 

[zekko]

I think a lot of the old school advice has actually become much more mainstream and common knowledge. Mystery Method was always its own little niche. I don't see much new that has come out.

I've never liked the "I have a boyfriend" problem, because from what I can see most girls actually do have boyfriends. Saying so isn't necessarily just a trick to make you go away. There are varying levels of seriousness though. Of course, a lot of guys who only care about their own selfish pleasures are just looking for a way to bang them anyway, they couldn't care less if they are interfering in a good relationship. Although it is true that "boyfriend" is a label with a questionable level of commitment - it's not on the level of fiance or husband, although some wouldn't let that deter them either.

 

[plumber]

remember that we also change. when we are 25, 35,45,55,65, and so on... the reactions of the world change. our interpretation changes as do the actual actions given to us. at 35 will get a different reaction to ignoring the boyfriend comment than when older. we still look at the 18 - 30 range of women regardless of what our age is. we are the one changing, big rules in the environment stay more or less the same.

 

[BaronOfHair]

@Tilex "What to say if she has a boyfriend?"

"Well, honey, when you walk through the front door in the very near future, only to find the Man Of Your Dreams b-lls deep in your father's rear end, while Dear Ol' Dad is shouting out: "Halderman!!!", and your boyfriend is wearing a Nixon mask... Call me up. I'm exceptionally engaging company, despite being 1,000,000 times more twisted than the dude you're currently paired up with"

It's worked reasonably well for me, since I began deploying it back in the early 10s, and continues to do so today. Mystery, Jeffries, DeAngelo, Frank Kermit, Bobby Rio, etc etc all urged us to mesmerize the ladies/everyone else with our courage and ingenuity