"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Dominator86

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Fri Nite I went out to a bar, the bartender started talking to me.....Shes 22 and I am 22, but i look older,.. told her I was new to the area, she offereed to show me around on Sunday.....she gave me her number...and i said i would call her on sat to set something up

I called sat afternoon her phone was off, didnt ring, got her voicemail with her name on it. so i know its the right number...i didnt leave a message....Sunday I called again,her phone was till off.. this time leaving my name., and number, and short breif message.....what shold i do now, its monday and all my buddies are going to her bar tonite to watch football, I feel stupid going, knowing that she didnt call me back yet or if shes even planning on returning the calll.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Soprano

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dont feel stupid dude just go and enjoy yourself

dont bring up the call act like its nothin and u forgot about it, which is how u should feel about it anyway ;)

if it was me and she brought it up i'd probably say something like "pft that's coming off your tip" or somethin stupid and not think of it again
 

crossboss

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You've got to see her.

It's hard to tell. If you are getting good vibes I'd say go for it. Just talk to her and see what happens. Just don't show her it bothers you.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Trapper

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why you are calling her again? its no use..you are coming of as a loser and needy.. move man enjoy your life... if she is really interested in you, she would definately call you.. good luck..

Keep it pimpin'
 

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I agree with Trapper, theres millions of fish in the sea...even if she is a hottie bartender :p
 

LA_Chico

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yeah, I see hot bartenders at alot of hot Hollwood parties, theres plenty of them bro!
 

Dominator86

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i am so mad abvout my luck with girls lately./...I seem to meet the weirdest girls that have some strange baggage.....everyone girl ive met in the past 2 years has had some sort of strange issue.....what the hell am i suppose todo


i have not met a chick in a long time where it was just easy to hangout, with......any suggestions?
 

Soprano

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start thinking with ur ****

edit - nm i just saw the part about wanting to hang out too
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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