"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Not returning phone calls

Jumpman23

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Normally, I always return phone calls, b/c I am a nice guy. It is part of my conscious. How is it, when you don't initially return a girls phone call and keep the girl waiting. But maybe wait a day or too. From what I see on the board That is supposed to stimulate her interest, by keeping her waiting.
Trying to understand, b/c my perspective is from the "nice guy."
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Jumpman23 said:
Normally, I always return phone calls, b/c I am a nice guy. It is part of my conscious. How is it, when you don't initially return a girls phone call and keep the girl waiting. But maybe wait a day or too. From what I see on the board That is supposed to stimulate her interest, by keeping her waiting.
Trying to understand, b/c my perspective is from the "nice guy."
Because every other bozo who happens to "score" her number is falling over himself to call his new found prize.

You on the other hand are the prize, and you call if and when she gets lucky enough to hear your voice.

The longest I've personally waited from the first initial meeting is 6 months believe it or not and got some nice sex, mind you she nexted me once she realised I was still a bit of a loser and had no prospects, but thats neither here nor there.

I believe If you leave a good enough impression the first time you can wait as long as you want. And why the fvck would you be so dead set keen to call her right away anyway? what has she done that spins your head off so much that you MUST call her asap?

Wait, did you just say "when she calls"? Why is she calling you first?

Have you read the DJ Bilble?
 

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I believe If you leave a good enough impression the first time you can wait as long as you want.
The problem there is that sometimes i don't want to wait, it is really hard to resist the temptation of calling a girl you know is interested. Im actually having a similar situation but the girl didn't return my call after she picked up the phone and told me she was shopping with her mom and would call me as soon as she got home around 8ish.
 

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Because every other bozo who happens to "score" her number is falling over himself to call his new found prize.

You on the other hand are the prize, and you call if and when she gets lucky enough to hear your voice.

The longest I've personally waited from the first initial meeting is 6 months believe it or not and got some nice sex, mind you she nexted me once she realised I was still a bit of a loser and had no prospects, but thats neither here nor there.

I believe If you leave a good enough impression the first time you can wait as long as you want.
this is almost harsh. Basically, it puts the power in your hands. Part of me believes in having good phone call etiquette and returning her call.
 

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this is almost harsh. Basically, it puts the power in your hands. Part of me believes in having good phone call etiquette and returning her call.
You should not be returning her call anyway. Why does she even have your number?

You get her number, you call, set up the meeting and goodnight Irene.

After that the phone dramas SHOULD be over. Everything else is masturbation.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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You should not be returning her call anyway. Why does she even have your number?

You get her number, you call, set up the meeting and goodnight Irene.

After that the phone dramas SHOULD be over. Everything else is masturbation.
I called her Thurs. to go out w/ some friends. waiting for her to call that night. She was actually working that night until 9. but Didn't call or text me until Friday, night, my phone was off. But she calls me tonight, but I am actually out of town anyways.
 
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