"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Not getting IOIs
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"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
GQ_Confidence_1
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Natural states are powerful, you should be able to close 90-95% of the time.Micheal Moon said:I agree with GQ confidence, its just about being in a natural state. I had a really good cold approach yesterday and number closed a cute Middle Eastern girl. I was actually not even paying attention when she sat down beside me (on the bus which I take occassionally).
It was only when I got the IOI's that I noticed her. Trying to get eye contact, playing with her hair which I notice girls do subconsciously and they don't even notice it I think. I just escalated it and started the convo from there.
I was just relaxing (and actually felt a little drowsy from some allergy meds I took).
A few months ago, I met this exotic dancer, dominatrix, she sat down next to me at this mall.
In my old state, like highschool or early college (when I didnt know what I was doing), I would have tried to think up lines or routines. Or, "how do I get her to like me". But in a natural state, you're not doing any of that.
You're just a guy, and she can sense that. You wouldn't evade her questions. You wouldn't be incongruent. Many girls arent use to that, so it works to your advantage. Your d*ck and your horniness is transfered to her. You'll come across subtely as more selective, having higher standards.
edger
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They do it because they're not interested. It's actually pretty simple. Most women who are interested, are going to make it AT LEAST somewhat obvious.Jitterbug said:Congrats edger, you've finally realised that women do things that make no sense!
Get some female friends to enlighten you on some of the stupid things they do to NOT make it obvious for guys they have a serious crush on.edger said:They do it because they're not interested. It's actually pretty simple. Most women who are interested, are going to make it AT LEAST somewhat obvious.
jophil28
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Jitter has it.Jitterbug said:Get some female friends to enlighten you on some of the stupid things they do to NOT make it obvious for guys they have a serious crush on.
Many women go to extraordinary lengths to bury their interest in men whom they desperately want to date.
Somehow these women conclude that cold disinterest is an effective strategy in signalling to a man that they want him to approach her.
How smart is that ! Cunning and so skillful, eh ?
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Classic scene from Woody Allen's ManhattanJitterbug said:Get some female friends to enlighten you on some of the stupid things they do to NOT make it obvious for guys they have a serious crush on.
Amanda: I've had a crush on you since we met. Couldn't you tell, the way I was ignoring you?
Jerry Falk: Well, there was something compelling about your apathy.
edger
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Yeah, I'm sure these things happen, but in the greater majority of cases, I highly, highly doubt to the greatest degree that this is what's happening. Again, most of the time I don't get any IOI's whatsoever...I highly doubt a lot of these women who aren't giving me buying signals, "are just acting this way because they're really interested, but playing it cool". If anything, it's gotta be a very, very small percentage of women who do this. It's silly and pretty delusional to think otherwise. Sometimes you have to look at the real picture.The Grue said:Classic scene from Woody Allen's Manhattan
Amanda: I've had a crush on you since we met. Couldn't you tell, the way I was ignoring you?
The Muscle Guy
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I find that hard to believe. Your height gives you a tremendous advantage in the game. Tall women 5'10 and up, love men your height. Short women that are insecure with their height love tall guys like you. There's something you are not telling us.
For myself, I look for favorable eye contact:
1. Lingering gaze
2. Eye contact, then looks down
3. Eye contact, then smile
I get favorable eye contact on a regular basis.
The Muscle Guy
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That's your own low self esteem talking.Willis said:i dont think i ever get IOIs...i think its because i dont have goodlooks or somethin...all i get is a regular look...
I used to tell myself I couldn't get women because I was Asian and every girl, even Asian girls wanted white guys.
That was my insecurity talking, not my true self.
Once I got over that bull****, I started to get good with women.
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
All i kno is that all my friends who are goodlooking get IOIs all the time.
wanna kno how i kno, because i see the way chicks look at them..i used to get jelous but then i thought "who gives a rats fvck"
and i dont have low-self esteem, know that im not even close to the best looking guy in my state..im jus being real with myself, and i dont get IOIs
and it may have somethin to do with my looks...Who knows, who cares..
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You have low self esteem. Admit it and deal with it, only then will things change.
non of those are my issues..
and i dont have to tell an internet forum im confident...lol
and i really dont care...there are gonna be people out there that look better than you, have more money or whatever...why should i worry about sh!t i cant change such as looks...